look at france and scandanavian, and tara says: personally, being a recipient of intrusive comments about my own child free life i can under why. it's being a descendant of a people that didn't have a say. black women are helping to lead child-free lives. it's important to include women, choice. >> speaking about choice. 20% of american women are ending their child bearing years, compared to 10" in the 1970s. do we see the trend as empowerment and voices. there's a double standard and difficult situation. >> going back to tania's point, we don't know why the women are not having children. i don't want to make too many assumptions about the stats. what we are seeing is that, for example, african american women, his panic women, asian women are seeing higher rates of remaining child free. part of that has less to do with ethnicity and other things, and more to do with education. the more educated women are, the more possibilities they have, the more likely they are to see child rearing, having children as a choice, and not a path they must walk. >> i see you shaking your head. we have to hi