in oslo the trams stood still, the rescue workers paused, and across scandinavia the moment was marked. then, by the field of flowers at the cathedral,. some people began to sing the words of a famous poem written for the young people of norway. ♪ >> brown: hours before he carried out his attacks, anders breivik published an extended manifesto on the internet. it detailed his belief, among other things, that islam poses an existential threat to european culture, and that many politicians are complicit in allowing that to happen. we talk about breivik and the broader issue of extremism with jonathan birdwell, a researcher at demos, a british think tank. his latest book, "the edge of violence," looks at the relationship between violent and non-violent radicals in europe and canada. and david art, an associate professor of political science at tufts university. his latest book is "inside the radical right: the development of anti-immigrant parties in western europe." jonathan bridwell, i will start with you. you had a chance to look at this so-called manifesto posted by anders breivak. br

scandinavia had the same problem huge problems and in scandinavia a lot of people went bankrupt they reorganize they had a horrible two or three years but since then scandinavia has been one of the great growth region so the country sweden is probably better off than most nations you know as we speak in two thousand and one south korea had the problem at the end of the ninety's people went bankrupt they had horrible pain but since then they've had a booming economy the list goes on and on people who've taken the pain accepted reality done something about it and then started over this idea of doing what the japanese did doesn't work doing what the americans have done doesn't work ok shares on their take everyone's talking about a selective default i mean is that just double speak for when it comes to a country like greece i mean i just don't want to call it to fold it was selective i mean is because it's not built into the euro zone you can't have it happen so are they just trying to kind of fake it and say it's a default but it's not a default. you know we're very close to the line t

in oslo the trams stood still, the rescue workers paused, and across scandinavia the moment was marked. then, by the field of flowers at the cathedral,. some people began to sing the words of a famous poem written for the young people of norway. ♪ >> brown: hours before he carried out his attacks, anders breivik published an extended manifesto on the internet. it detailed his belief, among other things, that islam poses an existential threat to european culture, and that many politicians are complicit in allowing that to happen. we talk about breivik and the broader issue of extremism with jonathan birdwell, a researcher at demos, a british think tank. his latest book, "the edge of violence," looks at the relationship between violent and non-violent radicals in europe and canada. and david art, an associate professor of political science at tufts university. his latest book is "inside the radical right: the development of anti-immigrant parties in western europe." jonathan bridwell, i will start with you. you had a chance to look at this so-called manifesto posted by anders breivak. br

and we've seen the growth in these movements across europe and scandinavia to varying degrees of successtually currently in the middle of doing research into street-based movements across europe. and as i said it varies significantly. on the one hand you have the very far extreme neo-nazi type groups and then the broader groups that are more populist and more focused on anti-immigration. so you definitely have seen a broader mobilization in the past three or four years of these groups. now the violent side of it is still quite small. but the risk is that the rhetoric of these broader groups, these street-based groups can feed into the individuals like breivak who are more motivated towards violence. >> and is it known, as much known about how well organized these groups are either within countries or in different countries? >> well, it's difficult to determine. like i said, the organizations are quite loosely based. they make use of the internet. they focus on demonstrations. so for example the english defense league is by far the largest. they have 72,000 members on facebook and they at

scattering of showers across scandinavia. then this low pressure system over in eastern europe remains very active, bringing heavy rain, strong thunderstorms in isolated areas. right now it's over the baltic states but it's going to be moving into finland on tuesday. so that will be welcome rain. behind this it is going to be triggering some quite sharp showers in places for the balkans as well. and that will help to cool things down. still a few degrees above your seasonal averages here. we've got 31 in budapest. 32 in belgrade. coming in at 37 in athens. all right, here is your extended forecast now. >>> our lead stories this hour. the operator of the crippled fukushima daiichi power plant will begin preparations to inject nitrogen into the number three reactor tuesday afternoon. tokyo electric power company says workers have confirmed last friday that the pipes can be connected to the reactor container. tepco plans to inject nitrogen to avoid a hydrogen explosion. the utility has set a target of july 17th to complete the t

but the heavy rain is going to be continuing across scandinavia, down through northern germany, and pulling into the baltic states as well. along the front the storms moving down into the black sea. this is going to be shifting away over the next 48 hours and easing off as well. then we have another area intensifying here across the alpine region and down toward the balkans. temperatures fairly cool in the west. 17 in london. keeping the heat in the east. 31 in athens. here's your extended forecast. >>> as we said reuters has reported a building explosion in the prime minister's house at the regional capital of oslo. the prime minister is safe. it blew out many windows on the 17-story building. they say several people were injured. reuters says an close damaged a government building housing the prime minister's office in the regional capital of oslo on friday. the norwegian news agency says the prime minister is safe. reuters also reports the blast blew out many windows on the 17-story building. the news agency building says several people were injured. >>> that's our broadcast for this hou

paying their tribute to very skilled in last week's massacre some twenty minutes in the sentiment in scandinavia is going to end. in europe the number of struggling economy seems to be increasing spain suffering recession mass unemployment has been put on review by the credit rating agency moody's france has been also warned by the international monetary fund that it needs more cuts to avoid becoming the next victim of the debt crisis the i.m.f. says the country's credit rating could be at risk if austerity measures aren't taken and the music's biggest suborn with greece has received another blow from one of its main creditors germany's finance minister says berlin won't write a blank check to buy back greek bonds a key measure agreed as part of last week's second bailout package financial journalist johan overdeveloped says the rescue package is nothing more than banks paying money to other banks. we're bailing out the banks and we wouldn't be that soft i presume with greece if there wasn't the problem of the french and the german banks not only of these two countries but of course they are the

the northern europe scandinavia. the. recruiter. ok thanks ever so much being on the program foreign news editor for the political magazine in denmark much appreciated all right more thought now about these very unfortunate events let's talk to radio host and author stephen leatherman is joining us on the line from chicago mr lemon either thanks if. these awful events unfold you know you're watching your side of the pond as well and we've already had unconfirmed claims by that group called themselves the helpers of the global jihad that this attack is a direct response to the presence of norwegian forces in afghanistan do you think that sounds like a realistic claim a realistic theory. karen i have written on numerous appearance numerous individuals falsely charged numerous official stories changed when i later evidence can i give you some examples both in america and europe both world trade center up on me is in america we know about matter whether the evidence is overwhelming that the nine eleven attack itself was a false flag mos

on is traditionally a pretty peaceful place so that we're bearing in mind that a bomb attack in scandinavia late last year of course but said look the terror alert be as high as i think the rest of western europe thinking to take a britain. will of course a few weeks ago when we can police did the rest some people lay claim to order an islamic call. to engage in a terrorist attack in norway and they may have been part of what has now happened today so might have thought their work would have been higher if it was the case of a car bomb was planted how far would somebody able to bring a critical with a bomb next to the prime minister's office or very close to it what kind of security to them and we. all saw them even if they haven't had the experience of terrorism madrid london paris recent years would have thought of them or involvement in military actions because the government programs like this one there would have been some calls around that might have been the case in a limited effect but it does seem to be an extraordinary. norwegian security police and claimed to have intercepted and

earlier on is traditionally a pretty peaceful place so that was bearing in mind that a bomb attack in scandinavia late last year of course but the terror alert as high as as in the rest of western europe thinking to take me britain. will host a few weeks ago when we can please to do arrest some people lay claim reports on islamic park. terrorist attack in norway and they may have been part of what has now happened so. there will be higher if it was the case of a car bomb was planted. with somebody able to bring a critical report next to the prime minister's office or very close to it what kind of security. even if they haven't had the experience of terrorism groups around and harrison recent years. thought you homegrown when american actions. are things like this one would have been some of the calls and some may have been the case may be limited in fact but it does seem to be an extraordinary. security police claim to have intercepted and arrest in the number of. weeks so it may not be ripe fruit market still early days the details coming through in the last ten minutes or so. a shooting at a ne

also, what we're finding in scandinavia is groups themselves are coming together from denmark, swedenway, different ethnicities gathering and meeting in mosques, and they are adjacent -- they're local to norway, sweden, denmark. know where the targets are. and saying a man who lived in norway, head of a very radical sunni group from northern iraq who was prosecuted because he'd threatened norwegian ministers because he was going to be deported. he said, you deport me and i get killed in iraq, the same will happen to norwegian ministers. so they do have this fringe in scandinavian countries of islamist militants. >> when i have questions about terrorism here, i often come you and ask you, you know, who these people are, what's going on here. in terms of who might be behind this, who do you think? >> it could be a whole range of groups. but the point is that al qaeda is not so much an organization. it's more a spirit for these people. it's a mobilizing factor. but they're gathering in cells, they don't necessarily have big structures that are transnational. but what we are seeing are th

you see it in the very start of the war with finland and scandinavia. he was allowing those generals who had a greater grasp than he and he listened to those specifically in the case of the maneuver that took the german army into the channel ports by mid-may 1940, but after that, he started to believe his own propaganda, the idea he was the greatest war lord of all time. this was part of the furh concept and that they were always right and an essential key and was the idea because britain and germany were both races, they would not go to war. it's an absurdity on so many levels, but he himself served in the trenches in the great war when they helped one another, but nonetheless, when the second world war broke out, there were 46 operational u boats with the united kingdom. by the end of the war, there were 463, most bottled up in the baltic, but if he started the world war with as many boats as he finished it, he would have been able to strangle the united kingdom, and the clans to invade the united king doll, many of which were not agreed up until sept

certainly consistent with threats that they've seen in norway and elsewhere in scandinavia and earliertockholm around christmastime. i think it is too early to reach a conclusion one way or the other. >> you make a great point. it is hard to wrap your mind around the ability of one man to do this. if he did indeed set off this car bomb in downtown in the city of oslo, with a huge explosion and then get out of there and make at least 25 minute trip, by the that i've seen so far, across the water, get into a police uniform, and arrive on this island and tell them, gee, there's this horrible attack in oslo and i'm coming to make sure everyone is okay and then pull off the mur. if you look at the scene, what should be a beautiful summer event for these children and it is an absolutely horrific scene. it is hard to imagine it could be one person. >> i think that's what the police need to be on urgently. not only to resolve this tragedy as i say, because of the risk that there may be other follow-on efforts if this is part of a broader pattern this behavior is very unnorwegian. the speculati

see it at the beginning of the war, at the very start of the war because in both poland and sand scandinaviand then with the maneuver through france in may 1940 he was allowing those german generals who had a far greater strategic grasp than he, men like rommel, he listened to those specifically in the case with the german army being taken through the channel ports by mid-may 1940. but after that he started to believe his own propaganda, the idea that he was, as goebbels called him, the greatest war lord of all time. this was part of the furor principle, the concept the furor was always right, and an essential key to nazi ideology as was the idea that because britain and germany were both anglo-saxon races, that they as aryans would not go to war with one another. it's an absurdity, needless to say, on so many levels. he, himself, had served in the trenches in the great war when they helped one another. but nonetheless, by the time the second world war broke out, there were only 46 operational u-boats against the united kingdom because he didn't believe he would ever have to actually fight t

certainly consistent with threats that they've seen in norway and elsewhere in scandinavia and earliers in stockholm around christmastime. i think it is too early to reach a conclusion one way or the other. >> you make a great point. it is hard to wrap your mind around the ability of one man to do this. if he did indeed set off this car bomb in downtown in the city of oslo, with a huge explosion and then get out of there and make at least 25 minute trip, by the that i've seen so far, across the water, get into a police uniform, and arrive on this island and tell them, gee, there's this horrible attack in oslo and i'm coming to make sure everyone is okay and then pull off the mur. if you look at the scene, what should be a beautiful summer event for these children and it is an absolutely horrific scene. it is hard to imagine it could be one person. >> i think that's what the police need to be on urgently. not only to resolve this tragedy as i say, because of the risk that there may be other follow-on efforts if this is part of a broader pattern this behavior is very unnorwegian. the spe

why is green technolog being lead by scandinavia, by asia. and that vision is just lacking. >> let me open that up with everybody. the idea of obama leadership, i mean as did has said is not acted boldly where he might have want h to act. >> my own sense is that you know, we're not supposed t say who we voted for as columnists of "the new york times" so don't tell anybody. but the reason i am suspected to have voted for barack obama. >> would you spot me ten when -- >> is, i voted for obama for one reason are. because i thought he could change the polls and not read the polls. i thought he was someone because of his oratorical skills and because of his unique background who would actually use the presidency to educate us in the way that all my colleagues have talked, to actually change the polls. and my biggest disappointment ii really see a guy reading the polls as closely as ever. roger referred to energy. let's look at the last year, charlie. you and i have talked about this before. climate change, those two words, climate change became a

but one has to remember that here in norway, scandinavia, there's very liberal laws governing their societya very peaceful region. and one of the reasons is, i assume, that that maximum penalty question suits the kind of peaceful society that scandinavians have come to know and enjoy. this of course changes things. i mean, can you imagine, this guy's right now got 93 murder counts and he's only going to serve 21 years? and of course there's the issue of how long would he serve with good behavior? so he may be out well before the age of 53. but again, that's an issue that the people are dealing with in norway today. but interestingly, there was an internet opinion poll on one of the key norwegian sooiths ites h they asked exactly that question, should the death penalty be introduced or should longer sentences be introduced in norway? 60% to 65% of the respondents in norway even after this attack said don't mess with the 21 years maximum because they want to preserve the values they have in this society. >> remarkable. okay. >> reporter: rather than punish the individual. >> martin fletcher,

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you see it at the beginning of the war but the very start of the war because in both old and and scandinavia, the maneuver through france in may 1940, he was allowing those german generals who had a far greater strategic goal than he, he listened to them specifically in the maneuver that took the german army through the town by mid-may 1940. but after that he started to believe his own propaganda, the idea that he was as germans called him the great order of all times. this was part of the fuhrer principle, the concepts of the fear was always right. and an essential key, as with the idea that because britain and germany were both anglo-saxon races, that they would not go to work with one another. it's an absurdity needless to say until may levels, but basically because he himself had served in the trenches in the great war when they had fought one another. nonetheless, by the time to second world war broke out their only 46 operational u-boats against the united kingdom because he didn't believe he would ever ask have to fight the united kingdom by the end of the war through 463, most of the

outside of france in the united states, britain, and if you constitutional monarchies in scandinavia, you have a rise of radicalism in continental europe through the depression and in hitler's germany, miscellany, and everywhere. when you have slow growth, you might think that everyone would say we should pitch in together and save the nation. it is not just here, but in both democracies. whenever these subgroups may become you want to hang on to what you have in a shrinking economy. it tends to over power politics and it is very frightening. >> there is the zero some mentality. do you want to add anything? >> it does not relate these days. we did not like one another when things were going good. that was because politics is not based on class groups but lifestyle groups. those sorts of relationships have broken. >> the lack of cohesion that i worry about is not a function of the economy as much as it is a function of demography. one might became a minority in the larger state of the union -- when whites became a minority, that forces us to recalculate what it means to be a member of

this scene played out across scandinavia earlier today. people pausing to remember the victims of that attack. as norway mourns we are hearing more from people who risked their lives to save others. our cnn's michael holmes caught up with one of them. >> it's not a huge boat. how many people did you put in here? >> the first round i believe it was 14. >> reporter: 14. >> yes. and then i had to address the oldest one and said you have to stay ashore. i promise i will come back and get you. they respected that. i said, sit down and wait. i went to the mainland. i went back again and they were -- agreed upon sitting there and i just waved to them like this and they waved back and we made a contact and got them in the boat. >> well, the clock is ticking on the debt limit crisis. there is no deal, if no deal by august 2nd, that means higher interest rates for you, a financial mess for the country, and the talks over the weekend, well, essentially they didn't go anywhere. so now republicans and democrats are working on separate plans to raise th

outside of france and the united states and britain and a couple of constitutional monarchies and scandinaviave got rise of authoritarianism three terrapin in the depression obviously in hitler's terminally and miscellany italy but elsewhere, and i do think there is a link that is when you have slow growth you might think everyone will say let's pitch in together and save the nation, but it's not just here, it's most democracies we've had the experience. the horizons contract and the group's, whatever they may be you want to hang on to what you have and the fear that someone else will do better than you and shrinking the economy tends to power politics and its very frightening. >> it's a sort of zero some mentality. bill, to one to that anything? >> we didn't like one another when things were going good. [laughter] and that's because politics now is not based on class trips, it's lifestyle groups and so those relationships have broken. >> i would say the lack of cohesion that i think about is not a function of the economy as much as tomography, and when it became a minority in the largest sta

it's become very popular in germany and scandinavia. six minutes past the hour. back to al for a check of the weather. talk about dangling the carrot in front of them. they started off with ten rabbits and ended up finishing with 80. that rabbit's dynamite. all right. let's show you what's happening. we have got a lot of heat out there to talk about. dangerous heat. heat advisories in 24 states. stretching from texas all the way up into new england. we've got temperatures, air temperatures well over 100 through the south stretching up into the mid-atlantic states. factor in the humidity. it's going to feel like 115 in huntsville, 108 in charlotte. 111 in columbia. here is the bad news. big area of high pressure, this upper level high pressure ridge keeps the jet stream to the north so that keeps the heat and humidity in today and we move into thursday, the jet stream is even further north and so that heat will continue to creep north as that ridge gets stronger and bigger. >>> it's that ridge of high pressure that kept us nice and hot l

outside of france and the united states and britain and a couple of countries in scandinavia, the rise of radical militarism, obviously in hitler's germany and muss leaney's italy. i think there's a link. when there's slow growth, you'd think everyone would say, let's pitch in together and save the nation. it's not just here in most democracies of which we had the experience, people divide and the subgroups, whatever they may be, you want to hang on to what you have an the fear that someone else will do better than you in a shrinken economy tends to power politics. it's a very frightening -- >> it exacerbates the zero sum mentality. bill, do you want to say something? >> it doesn't relate these days. we didn't like one another when things were going good. that's because politics now is not based on class groups, it's baseden lifestyle groups. and so, you know, those sorts of relationships are broken. >> i would say the kind of -- the lack of cohesion that i worry about is not a function of the economy as much as a function of democracy. when whites became a minority, for instance, in t