pollster and director at jl partners, scarlett mccgwire , broadcaster scarlett mccgwire, broadcasterce holdsworth and former conservative special adviser and chief of staff to nadhim zahawi james price. and candice, what do you feel about this? first of all, do you think that these remarks might be influential, for example, about kemi badenoch? >> well, from what i. from what. >> well, from what i. from what. >> i've heard, people aren't quite sure about her approach that she's taking. you know, the sort of easy as it goes. we've got time. let's take time to diagnose. others are saying, actually, events are moving really fast. they're looking to america, where donald trump has come in with elon musk in the silicon valley ethos of move fast and break things. and they're saying, we want that here. we want that level of system disruption. and i don't think it's just on the conservative right as well. people i've spoken to in labour are also saying the same thing, that actually the system is broken and we need to do something about it. and what has surprised me totally is people who i kn