so this is scarry. if i'm sitting with the appellant right now, i would be scared for the appellant because they're flying blind. they have to ability to appeal once these -- the real permit is issue. the site permit could be considered smoke and mirrors because there's to plans associatessed witassociated wit. >> the site permit is important. you'll find that anyone -- there are nuances to the permitting process for sure, but i was surprised to hear the attorney for the property owner say, well, it just a site permit. a site permit is a critical element and it is the appealable document. there are plans associated with this. it's received all of the planning approvals that are necessary. if there were communications with tenant and asked is there a permit, i don't think they should be required to say, well, was it just a site permit or an adenda. they do have a permit and they have the site permit that was issued in september. whether or not there have been plan, there have been plans since december of