we'll spin about it and tony schafer's here with the unique perspective on border security.uch more next. >> if we're truly committed to strengthening our middle class and providing more ladders of opportunity to those who are willing to work hard to make it in to the middle class, we have to fix the system. we have to make sure that every business and every worker in america is playing by the same set of rules. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? >>> hi. we're back here at the table digesting president obama's big immigration speech in nevada and a couple of things that struck me. you know, one, i think we all are aware of the basic sort of political co

[applause] >> thank you, secretary schafer. and secretary doug dominique mentioned the and i saw a hand go up in the back corner. doug, thank you for being here. [applause] delighted to see you. [applause] i am delighted to join secretary norton and secretary schafer and members of the conservation leadership council here today. before we engage in our open discussion, i'm going give a few additional remarks to provide detail of the papers and a little bit more flaser what the council is all about. in the headlines, environmental issues are barely a blip on the screen of political and policy dialogues amid the fury over the fiscal cliff. for many conservative, environmental issues often meet with resistance and concern concern that the issues are someone -- beyond the headlines the picture is more complex and encouraging. beyond the hmms the vast majority of americans those gathered here including conservatives value environmental protection, restoration, and enhancement as sec secretary schafer said. fiscal responsibility, lim

start with an afghan war veteran, anthony schafer, friend of the program. and now with the cent ef of advance defense studies and john saltz, chairman of votevets.org. tony, do you like the pick? is this good for america? >> yes, it is. i think the fact may be as you said man with no party he speaks the truth and most important to

all right, here to hash it out, constitutional expert ilya shapiro and sabrina schafer as well as "the wall street journal"'s steve moore. steve, a disturbing series of events, to put it mildly. >> no question about it, neil. and, look, we have a three-branch system of government in washington. the president is the chief of the executive branch, that means the president doesn't make the laws, he executes the laws that congress passes. and, you know, i'm in austin, texas, today. here in texas everybody's been talking about this. what is with all these executive orders? what gives the president the authority to do this? and the one that, you know, i'm most interested in, obviously, is whether the president will try to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling without approval of congress. and that is the scuttlebutt right now in washington, that the president is simply going to do it whether congress authorizes that extension or not. neil: you know, sabrina, it's odd that this is occurring the same week we saw the movie "lincoln" honored with 12 oscar nods. of course, a lot of people point to

dems and republicans because this is a realism argument that people like i believe or control knell schafer and nation building interventionists who think we should fight wars for democracy in the far end corners of the world. >> john, hagel served in war and voted to send soldiers to war and history won't look kindly of the yes votes for iraq war in 2002 and i think what's so interesting about him is he grappled with that as the years went on and as he came to sort of reassess that vote and i think changed sort of his foreign policy philosophy and intervention and war. i wonder when you look at his evolution over a decade an you look at this -- the issue of iran and loom large over four years, how do you think his evolution will affect how he approaches iran? >> i think it's going to -- >> go ahead. >> i think it's pragmatic by the fact that, look, military commanders will tell you there's no good military options of iran so you have to come to a solution which will exhaust every option before war. i think chuck hagel will look at that. sorry. didn't mean to step on you. >> what do you thi

department of agriculture, ed schafer. [applause] >> thank you all for joining us here today. i hope you have the chance to have breakfast. we have roles in coffee and juices and water. feel free to get up and have some food, leave come and talk to your navel, chuckle, click your classes. as a former governor, i'm used to addressing the legislature. anyways, this is from the book, ranch life and hunting trail. my home which is on the size of the little missouri. it is about 12 in the nearest below me about 10 miles distance. the general courses northerly, but while flanker may ranch, takes a great westerly beach ball then is always, half a mile away. down to the valley and suites, leaving one side and then the other and open glade among the long low house of human blogs. from the long veranda program that comes shaded by of beefy cottonwoods, one looks across sandbars and shows to a strip, which raises a line of sheer cliffs agresti patterns. this is a price and place were having a cool breeze stirs around the river attired men. their rocking chairs for what true americans doe