dr. schaffner, it's good to see you again. i want to ask you as a, a medical professional and if someone with experience at the national level of u. s. public health policy. how credible are china's numbers from shay, hi, or how incredible can we take them to be 3 deaths in a population of 26000000? that's under walk dale. ah, well break. it suddenly raises eyebrows doesn't he? and it puts one in memory of former president reagan's comment trust, but verify. so i'm a little bit dubious about that. we recognize that only crohn is less serious and that this is a highly vaccinated chinese population. but nonetheless, only 3 deaths in that huge city seems curious and police. i mean, yeah, trust but verify. you know, those were the days when you could actually go in and count the number of nuclear warheads in the soviet union in the us. we can't go in to china and get free access to information there, so we really can't ever know for sure what the real situation is. they are covered wise, can we? no, i don't think we can, but it's