schaffner. my concern is this.ecades, we tried to have market-based solutions to market-based problems and market-based theories. viruses exist out in nature, markets do not. what i am thinking is this. we had hundreds of billions of dollars spent on ads, commercials for medicines and drugs for anything and everything. the motive, justin kohler shall is him -- just in commercialism, developing all the breakthroughs we are making on covid. they admitted having cures for diseases are possible. i am fearful the marketeers will take over all of the research on this, because everybody needs to have health care. it cannot be turned into a luxury commodity. i will take your answer off, thank you kindly. guest: thank you, you sound like a public health person. the maximum benefit for the maximum number of people, make sure there are no inequities, make sure the benefits of good diagnostics, good treatment and good prevention are available to everyone in our society. i am certainly with you, thank you. host: let us talk to

schaffner. my concern is this.ecades, we tried to have market-based solutions to market-based problems and market-based theories. viruses exist out in nature, markets do not. what i am thinking is this. we had hundreds of billions of dollars spent on ads, commercials for medicines and drugs for anything and everything. the motive, justin kohler shall is him -- just in commercialism, developing all the breakthroughs we are making on covid. they admitted having cures for diseases are possible. i am fearful the marketeers will take over all of the research on this, because everybody needs to have health care. it cannot be turned into a luxury commodity. i will take your answer off, thank you kindly. guest: thank you, you sound like a public health person. the maximum benefit for the maximum number of people, make sure there are no inequities, make sure the benefits of good diagnostics, good treatment and good prevention are available to everyone in our society. i am certainly with you, thank you. host: let us talk to