joining me now is doctor william schaffner.a professor of medicine in the infectious disease division at vanderbilt university medical center. doctor schaffner, great to see you again. i'm having a little bit of deja vu. we used to talk to you all the time during the covid pandemic, but great to have you back and your expertise. let me ask you about what's what's going on in kansas. the officials there say that this outbreak poses, quote, very low risk to the general public, including the surrounding counties. do you agree with that assessment? what do you make of this tb outbreak that we're seeing right now? it is concerning. >> well, it is concerning locally. this is going to be a local phenomenon, jim. and as you know, tb is caused by a bacteria that principally involves the lung. and it usually is transmitted person to person with prolonged contact. so we'll find all the cases and then the local and state health departments with cdc assistance will go out and get all the contacts of those positive cases and test them. if th

william schaffner arroll. kai, the late president's biographer.s you watch this, what goes through your mind? >> well, you know, it's a sad moment, but he was 100. and this reminds me that a few months ago, his personal lawyer, longtime personal lawyer terry adamson, told me a funny story that carter was talking to one of his grandchildren or great grandchildren, and he was reminiscing about what a great life he'd had. what a success he had been in everything he did. but then he quipped, but, you know, i'm apparently not very good at this dying business. and that's classic carter, acerbic humor. and he wasn't very good at this dying business. he lived a very long, productive life. it's just an astonishing record in a life of service. >> right. which is in so many ways at the core of his faith and his christian values and beliefs. he could have had a different life after his presidency. he went out of office, and many saw him as a failed president. but then he went on and had this decades long career of serving others in small and forgotten places