the so-called biblical rods that the schatz had inside.lumbing supply tubes used to beat the children. and also important, a book was found inside, a book that appeared to light the fuse to the deadly brutality. the book is called "to train up a child." its author is this man on the tractor, michael pearl, and his wife, debi. they consider themselves observant christians who run an organization called no greater joy ministries from their tennessee farm. >> we'll, a preacher, a minister of the gospel. >> reporter: their book and others they have written stacked in a warehouse on their farm, all of them guided they say by the teachings in the bible. >> and it says if you spare the rod, you hate your child. but if you love him, you chasten him timely. >> reporter: a rod could be anything from a tree switch to a spatula. in the book they describe the rod as a magic wand. god would not have commanded parents to use the rod if it were not good for the child. the pearls say parents should stay in control and not act in extreme. but they also decl

the so-called biblical rods that the schatz had inside.ere 15-inch-long plumbing supply tubes used to beat the children. and also important, a book was found inside, a book that appeared to light the fuse to the deadly brutality. the book is called "to train up a child." its author is this man on the tractor, michael pearl, and his wife debbie. they consider themselves observant christians who run an organization called no greater joy ministries from their tennessee farm. >> we'll, a preacher, a minister of the gospel. >> reporter: their book and others they have written stacked in a warehouse on their farm, all of them guided they say by the teachings in the bible. >> and it says if you spare the rod, you hate your child. but if you love him, you chasten him timely. >> reporter: a rod could be anything from a tree switch to a spatula. in the book they describe the rod as a magic wand. god would not have commanded parents to use the rod if it were not good for the child. the pearls say parents should stay in control and not act in extreme.

face to come very rarely nothing like this is going to happen any more but it has some very sturdy schatz's nothing in the riding gear broke no nothing in a landing gear broke. no nothing broke as we plow through the woods it's a reliable plane and if you act with determination it follows your orders very well . i'd like you to comment on the latest tragic air accident involving a polish plane that crashed near smolensk surely you've heard about it and read a lot about it as you see it what prevented the polish crew from making a safe landing at that time. it seems to me the crew was nervous because the entire government and the country's president were and would the plane. what they should have done was to avoid landing on that particular airfield. so you should have diverted they should have taken the risk that it to land on a reserve airfield and save lives very interesting all the mechanisms were operative the plane had been checked and tested time and again by contrast none of your back and has since were functioning but you enjoyed good visibility while they were in the fog where thei