but they say they're not to blame for what the schatz did to 7-year-old lydia. >> what is the word is this. >> spanking. >> there's a difference? >> absolutely. a hand is hitting. a little switch is spanking. a wooden spoon or rubber spatula is spanking. >> why not just use your hand instead of all these materials. >> let me show you something. does that hurt? doesn't feel good, but look what it's doing to your whole body. see your hip? here's your hand on somebody, that's a karate chop. >> you say when you use this material, that it can't cause a permanent -- >> my children never had marks left on them. >> they're not shy about using props and humor. >> i'm going to spank the sinning man -- >> reporter: to show how they believe god wants parents to spank. >> rubbing the spaghetti all over your head, you shouldn't have done that at 7 years of age. okay? that hurts. and i'm 50.

but they say they're not to blame for what the schatz did to 7-year-old lydia.y explained it to our gary tuchman. >> i don't use the word hitting. >> what is the word is this. >> spanking. >> there's a difference? >> absolutely. a hand is hitting. a little switch is spanking. a wooden spoon or rubber spatula is spanking. >> why not just use your hand instead of all these materials. >> let me show you something. does that hurt? doesn't feel good, but look what it's doing to your whole body. see your hip? here's your hand on somebody, that's a karate chop. >> you say when you use this material, that it can't cause a permanent -- >> my children never had marks left on them. >> they're not shy about using props and humor. >> i'm going to spank the sinning man -- >> reporter: to show how they believe god wants parents to spank. >> rubbing the spaghetti all over your head, you shouldn't have done that at 7 years of age. okay? that hurts. and i'm 50. i mean -- i mean, i -- >> are there any marks on you? >> but you would hit a 5-year-old like that? >> yeah, sure. >> rep

we have talks and schatz amongst the people in tampa and attending the convention. there are between 13,015 thousand members of the media covering this convention. -- 13th thousand and 15,000 members of the media covering -- 13,000 and 15,000 members of the media covering this convention. the amount of activity being used at this event, technologically, is the most ever utilize for any event seen in florida. this is the first time that republicans have gathered to pick a nominee in florida. in 1972 they came together in miami beach, and the democrats were here as well. 1972 was the last time a presidential convention was held in florida. there are over 7500 volunteers on side being used by the republican national committee and other groups getting the convention going. one of only four national security events happening in 2012. other examples include g-8 or g- 10 summits -- g-20 summits. they received a grant here in florida to ramp up security on these events. yesterday we visited or the mayor of tampa. you can find that interview on c-span.org, if you miss it. we

. >> we spoke to symptom schatz earlier, citizens against waste.llar appropriation for 2010, 2011 to the usda. we spent on one intern $2 million. let's watch this. if you do not have a plan you cannot imagine how the money is being spent. everyone is out there throwing money around and hoping that it doesn't get wasted rather than watching how it's being spent and keep track and having oversight. when i hear stories like this is there any wonder that americans think spent something out of control and bureaucratic bloat has reached all-time high. $2 million allocated. requested and allocated to this department in the usda that then only hired one intern with t seems so unbelievable it is reported fox nation, seems so unbelievable that we went back to the source, the original 2010, 2011 audit report, yep, sure enough, they did discover that was a problem. >> at least they reported it. >> they were audited and because they were audited they found out like something went wrong with this internship program for $2 million. >> the thing is, you have heard