even he says, mr schenk that is, even the way in which the christian anti—abortion movement signed a shaming two. do you have any sense of shame?— sense of shame? well, you'll notice i am — sense of shame? well, you'll notice i am not _ sense of shame? well, you'll notice i am not he _ sense of shame? well, you'll notice i am not he and - sense of shame? well, you'll notice i am not he and i - sense of shame? well, you'll notice i am not he and i am l sense of shame? well, you'll. notice i am not he and i am not a pastor. i'm not somebody who went from pro—life to pro—choice, perhaps because he was engaging those things that's all he saw. i don't know and i never knew him. i can say my own conversion came from authentic reasons out of love and justice not because i want to manipulate or anything. your own country had similar motives of many in the pro—life movement here. that was in the midst of all sorts of discrimination and all sorts of refusing to see that speaking the truth to power is in important thing to do. so in the case of donald trump, the same. �* the case of donald trum