middle class jobs and stepping-stones for the, woing class to get to the middle class and that's being schettff by the h1b guest worker visas. the guest workers are coming in and there is the myth that these are the best and brightest. in reality, most of the folks have ordinary skills, no more than a bachelor's degree which is true in microsoft's case, too. >> discuss the claims that foreign graduates of u.s. universities are being forced to leave our country because we're not hospitable to them. give us your take. >> it's another myth. people have gone as far as saying that they're being deported and absolutely not true. graduate students, international students that come and do graduate work here have lots of ways of staying on the opts, there is a whole alphabet soup of visas, work visas to stay here temporarily and work and also permanently and the stay rates, that's a term of art that's used to track how they're doing remain very high so there are lots of ways that students can stay here and by the way, the industry has not lobbied for more of those visas, and those set aside for the gr