schlafly. that is the quotation we started the law with, equality of the rights under the law will not be denied or abridged by the united states or by any state on account of sex. now, you are with stop e.r.a. why are you against this? >> well, the language of the amendment i think shows why we didn't find out what was the matter with it until we got well into this constitutional debate. most people thought it meant equal pay for equal work, but that's now already guaranteed by the equal employment opportunity act of 1972. but we have found that the equal rights amendment will take away from women some of the most important rights that they now possess. for example, the laws of every one of our 50 states requires the husband to financially support his wife and children. now, under the equal rights amendment, all these laws will be invalidated because no longer can you have any ledgetion which imposes an obligation on one sex that it does not impose on another. you don't have to take my word fo

what we're going to see today is a debate by phyllis schlafly and pat schroeder congresswoman from the state of colorado. she was a feminist and pr pro-e.r.a. supporter. so we could turn down the lights and we'll start the clip.