schliefer. you greeted me with an elbow bump how did the president treat you? >> i said we should do a bump and we actually did a bump >> tell us about the tone from the administration, the president. what level of urgency were you sensing yesterday? >> no question that the entire administration was there the president, vice president, head of the cdc, the head of the fda and a litany of others they were all intensely focused on how quickly we could move forward. and i think what emerged was a three-part strategy. basically, we look at whatever is available now the anti-viral that exists and we try to throw it at this problem and hope that it works that's super optimistic that it will yield something but i'm hoping >> you're not serum optimistic >> i'm not super optimistic. it was tried with ebola and it didn't do that much. maybe the coronavirus is a little different but i certainly i am hopeful that it will work. >> what about your dmoim particular fighting that >> you said this began in janel. this actually began about 35 years ago -- >> a the short story >>