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but a prerevolutionary moment according to doug schoen and pat caddell. good to see you both. gregg: that's what we've been asking our viewers, to take our newsroom poll. not scientific, but we'd like to hear from you. today we're asking would a third party candidate make an impact on your vote in 2012. so far, about 40 percent say yes and 60 percent say no, a third party candidate would not impact their vote. very interesting numbers. martha: they are interesting keep the votes coming in on that, send me a tweet, martha maccallum, on your thoughts about this third party candidate idea. coming up, we're going to have more on this story for you. take a look at this picture that broke my heart this morning when i saw it. he is one of the 22 navy seals who died serving our country in afghanistan, and that dog, hawkeye, simply still will not leave his side. gregg: plus, a federal judge, hearing arguments over the toughest immigration law in the country. we're going to have a fair and balanced debate on alabama's battle, next. gregg: a showdown is underway in alabama, a judge decid

doug schoen, former bill clinton pollster and a fox news contributor and david president of go-pac.ee both of you gentlemen. >> good to see you, jamie. >> jamie: doug, preying on the fact that folks are not hopeful or happy. and is that the president's best and winning strategy? >> i think it's part of the overall strategy. he's going to decry partisanship all the while attacking the republican congress for effectively blocking his program and blaming george w. bush for getting us in the mess we're all in today. so, i think it's basically a deflect strategy and also, suggests that he had ideas that if only the republicans didn't block the country would be in better shape. >> before i go to david, which policies specifically would he say he wants to place, he got health care. >> sure he got health care and didn't get the deficit reduction package and didn't get the overall reforms and most of all tax increases that he wanted and it may not be popular, but his point is if we'd done balanced deficit reduction in extending the debt limit. i think his argument, we wouldn't have been down

doug schoen on that.and how to wreck your ride and save the day in one fell swoop. >> i saw her rapidly trying to throw stuff into her car and get out of this. >> i got in my van real fast and drove over there. martha: this can't make folks in the white house too happy but when you look at president obama's approval rateing it has sunk to a new low this morning and there is the number, according to gallup's daily tracking poll, they talk to about 1500 people a day, they've got his approval rating at 38 percent, 54 percent disapprove of the job the president is doing. that's just one of the numbers we're going to look at in the mix here, doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton, also a fox news contributor, it is always good to see you, good morning. >> good morning. martha: we talked about the fact that, first of all, look at that number, how rough, how tough is that for him because he's got more than a year to go. >> it's tough because the trend is negative. he's come down from the high 40s

and john schoen is forced to admit an oil leak from a platform off the coast of scotland which has released more than two hundred tonnes of crude into the north sea said to be the worst spill in more than a decade it began five days ago but was only acknowledged by. company two days later it's now being given widespread coverage but was virtually ignored by media organizations for several days that's no surprise to adam ramsay he's event manager of the people and planet student organization who believes it's not the first time the government has been complicit in oil industry cover ups i think the people who are used to dealing with cho wouldn't be surprised at all about the lack of communication it's worth remembering that it was only a few days ago that they admitted after years of lies and cover up their role in the enormous spills across nigeria this company has never let the truth or in fact people's lives all the environment get in the way of getting the way of their profit margin and so so i think we certainly don't know for sure how bad it is but we do know that this is a serious bi

doug schoen is back.condoleeza rice he lease jordan is here. -- elise jordan is here. the dow goes down, if you look at greece, italy, spain, if you look at portugal, ireland, the world economy, 25 trillion in debt, we'll have in 10 years. minimum. it is getting a little scary out there. >> i think it shows the huge unrest with the massive amount of debt that european countries have and can't reasonably repay in any amount of time and the u.s. too. it is really troubling when we think about the next generation and how we are going to start to pay for this. >> sean: doug, i've been laying out here -- i'm watching independents in this country, you follow independents, >> i do. >> sean: and you follow the tea party closely. >> i do. >> sean: i love the tea party they were principled in this debate. i think they are recognizing the root cause of the problem. i want a solution that is going to solve the problem. but for cut, cap and balance none of them hit it. why isn't there the willingness to see the severi

bill: doug schoen, thank you for your time. >> thank you. martha: we're awaiting news on a couple of very big stories now. you've got the market about to open, four minutes from now. now, they're implementing -- the new york stock exchange is putting in rule 48. that doesn't mean anything to most of us, but what it says is they're concerned about the open in terms of how the stocks will open and the futures have been down about 200 points this morning. that's not a good sign that they are concerned in that way. so we're going to watch when that happens. >>> hillary clinton at 10:00, we expect that she will make comments on syria as the president is about to release a paper statement calling for bashar assad, the president of sir syria, to step down. big news on that front. bill: in the meantime, we've got a business owner shot in the arm, his car vandalized, he says he was a target of a union worker. >> he said you've been shot, and i looked and i got a bull the hole that went into one part of my t-shirt out of the back. >> we're in fear a l

pat caddel, doug schoen. >> thank you, rick. rick:.pentagon report raising concerns for us here at home. it claims china is working to expand the military in the next nine years. jennifer griffin has details in the pentagon. we heard hints of this before, jennifer, but what are the more surprising revelations maybe some of the allegations in this report that really strike a nerve this time? >> reporter: it is perhaps the steady march towards achieving stealth weaponry. the expanse of the defense budget up 12% this year with no real explanation why china's military is expanding. the record number of space launches. the accusation about china's military essentially being involved in cyber warfare of. page 5 of the report, numerous computer systems around the world including those owned by the u.s. government were target of intrusions some appear to originated within the prc, the peoples republic china. that report is annual report to congress and mentions cyber attacks eminating from china. what is not mentioned a very important incident

with us here in new york, democratic pollster and fox news analyst doug schoen. gentlemen, let me just begin with a simple question. is mitt romney on the ropes, dr. sabato? >> juan, he is on the ropes. in fact, is he no longer the frontrunner. he has always been a weak frontrunner. i have never seen him over 30. doug keeps up with the polls than i do. i have never seen him over 30% in a national poll. he has generally been in the upper teens or low 20's. i think perry, at least for the time being, is now the new frontrunner. >> juan: doug? >> i think larry is right. i looked at a bunch of state polls today south carolina, iowa, florida. perry is surging. romney is sinking. and bottom line, when a frontrunner is as weak as larry says that romney was and is, then is he no longer the frontrunner. >> juan: well, this is intriguing moment. one, do you think it's going to last for perry because i think the american people in general don't know rick perry at this point. they are coming to know him. is it a temporary femoral moment in the polls or do you think it's real

and former clinton advisor and democratic pollster douglas schoen. he sits on the group's board of advisors. great to have you both. eliot ackerman do you first. our political parties have been around since the birth of the country practically. we have a stable system of government. why circumvent them? >> what's important to realize is this isn't a third party. this is a second nominating process. the vision here is that in november of 2012 when american voters go to the poll, they'll be... there will be a third ticket that they directly nominated themselves. americans-elect will be holding the first-ever non-partisan on-line nominating convention. any registered voter can be a delegate to that convention. the. >> woodruff: it's not a third party, you're saying, but it's a process that would circumvent the party. what is it about the two political parties that makes you think you can get around them? >> well, if you look at the polls, judy, you see that there are record levels of disapproval with both parties, with congress, with institutions genera

brad blakeman is former deputy assistant to president bush and doug schoen is a former pollster for president clinton and fox news contributor. we got brad on the right and doug on the left and gentlemen, i'd love to -- i loved this opportunity here because brad, you said exactly the opposite of what you thought -- i thought would you say and doug, you too. brad, you think president obama is in the right. explain that. >> i do. i think they came to the event to disrupt and to put the president in a get cha situation. certainly the president wouldn't have had a perry mason moment and said yes, of course we think you're terrorist, of course we think you're bad for america. that wasn't going to happen. look, it was akin to what happened to romney at the iowa straw poll when the ultra partisan democrat tried to disrupt the speech that he was going to give. i think the line was appropriate that the president went over. if you're going to have that conversation do, it there, but to go there with a mission to embarrass the president and have a gotcha moment for your own purposes i don't think is res

doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton, andrea tantaros and new host of the "the five". i don't know how you call it a cohost, there are five of you, so you'd be the co, co, co, co host! >> that makes sense! bill: does mitt romney need to change his game, andrea, yes or no? >> look, i think mitt romney is running a play book he ran first time around and he's failed to have any good answers when it comes to romneycare in massachusetts, even if the fox news -- even at the fox news debateby heard the same points and he went into that debate as most frontrunners do, trying not to get hit. it's almost like he was hidingun the podium, he wanted to remain unscathed and rick perry has captured the imagination of the g ofpl p electorate, one looking for more of an outsider, fresh face and somewhere for the evangelical toss call home, so i think the real race has become a 2-man race between the two. bill: you're saying that romney has backed off, he needs to change his stance and be more aggress stkpwhraoeuf that's right. bill: doug, is that the way that romney needs to be advis

mary katherine hamm, doug schoen, both fox news contributors.pote of you. >> thank you very much. alisyn: what is sarah palin up to? [laughter] >> the trick is that none of us know. and i think that's the way she likes it. she likes the national media sort of following her every move, checking it out, and i'm not sure she has a specific plan. she says she's not going to decide until late august. because she has so much energy around her, she can wait until super late and not pay the price that other people would for not having organized before that point, so she's got that prerogative. she wants to go where the party is, and that's where it is this weekend. alisyn: doug, this seems like a last minute decision on the part of sarah palin because no one was expecting her in iowa before labor day, that was the first time she had a scheduled event there, labor day weekend. what do you think is happening? >> i hi this is about keeping the brand -- i think this is about keeping the brand relevant. she has made a series of last minute decision about her

woman says that she heard a commotion behind her while shopping at a mall in fairfax county, and schoenfelt a sudden piercing in her buttocks. her wound was about an inch and a half long. the suspect does not talk to his victims, but this is what we've been showing you here, some surveillance video from one of the stores that police believe is the guy. he's described as hispanic, in his late 20s around 5-6 and heavyset. anyone with any information is asked to contact the fairfax county police department at 703-691-2131 or else that tips line down there at the bottom of your screen. this is a serious situation. the police are on it, jenna, but they need the public's help. jenna: we'll continue to watch it, rick. thank you. >> a number of growing detroiters reclaiming the land. the amazing thing, though, is this is not the michigan countryside. it's not even suburbia. this is downtown detroit. ♪ >> once a burgeoning middle class neighborhood, it's now known as the jungle. >> okay. today we're going to water the boxes. we immediate to pick up the trash from -- we need to pick up the trash

where it happened. 20-point swing from july of last year, joining me now, pat cadell and doug schoen.atic pollsters leading left, alan coomes says polls change. >> they do and they're getting worse. the key point is consumer confidence is going down, confidence in the political system is going down, and pat and i have discussed separately, the american people have had it with the political class, had it with both parties and believe washington doesn't work. megyn: what do you tell president obama about these numbers, because they're all headed in the wrong direction, pat. >> the first thing is stop pretending they're not going in the wrong direction or paper it over. i lived through a campaign like this where you think you're going to savage your opponent. probably we're looking at something much bigger, megyn, we're in a prerevolutionary moment. when you have 69 percent of the people who say that the government in washington is not governing with their approval or authority, that is historic. megyn: you're head fog a watershed moment. >> 17 percent saying they do. the consent of the

doug schoen is a former clinton pollster and fox news contributor. is this republican wishful thinking? >> well, it may be. but megyn, as the president's ratings drop, and as the left gets more and more angry, the possibility of a primary challenge, however slight, grows more likely and more possible. megyn: in the last 60 years, every time there has been a serious primary challenge to a sitting president, that president has lost the general election. which is why it occurs to me that it's people on the right who are encouraging a primary challenge to president obama, who want to see it most. >> well, i think there are people on the right who want to encourage it, but there are also frankly people on the left like bernie sanders, when he made that comment, what he's really saying is if there was some pressure from someone like himself or dennis kucinich to pull the president back towards the left, where they think he belongs, that they would have a better agenda for america and maybe shake things up. so i think it's something where the left and the r

doug schoen, former pollster for president clinton, and brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to georgetlemen, it's great to have you both together. well come to both of you. got to tibet the debt keel -- get to debt deal done, guys. got to get the debt deal done, otherwise the markets are going to crash. they haven't crashed but, man, yesterday was a whipsaw. brad, after stimulus and health care and everything else over the past two and a half years, what can the white house say now about where they're taking the economy? >> well, the white house can say the president's actually going to do something about it, and the way he can do something is to lead this economy in the fall and the 2012 budget. there's going to be another continuing resolution bill in the fall, you're going to see a huge fight over that. our government can't seem to pass a budge. our president was unable to do it when the democrats controlled both houses of congress and the white house last year. that's the next big battle looming, and what does the president do? he goes on a political bus tour. it's a job creation

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mar schoen darrow.sinessman that travels a lot, and like many people in that type of life, pulled over by the side of the road and took a nap one night. unfortunately, he did so in an area that fell under the jurisdiction of the national parks service. crossed the river here in virginia, and had a gun in his car and this is during a time in which the national park service had a ban on people having firearms in their cars. he was prosecuted and convicted and has raised the second amendment challenge to that law which, of course, has since been repealed. in any event, that opinion was somewhat disturbing. the fourth circuit u.s. court of appeals not only held that it is unlikely that there is a second amendment right outside the home, well, they didn't quite say it that way. they said we don't want to go there, we're not sure we need to resolve this. under any event, however, the court held regardless of whether there is or is not a right to carry arms outside the home, the fact is that there are people w