i'm pleased we have a secretary of education who believes in public school choice and charter schoo schools. the d.l.c., i believe, was the first organization to talk about charter schools. i went all over america advocating it in 1992 and finally one guy i knew pretty well in a state where we had a primary and he said bill i don't know what the heck are talking about how many of those schools are there in america? >> i said one. where is it? minnesota. how many can set them up. as far as i know, two, minnesota and arkansas. but you think about it. if we did it, it would make a difference. by the time i left office we had 2,000 charter schools, the congress had given fund for 3,000 and now we have schools in new york city, am where i foundation is, in poor neighborhoods where there are 20 applicants for every one seat open in the charter schools. you should be proud of that, al from. i love the fact that the president appointed a secretary of education committed to that kind of reform. so, that is my second point. it doesn't matter that president obama wasn't a card carrying founder of the