minutes all defendants with latino last names setting bail at the alleged amount owed cuny school of law professor alan white explains in effect people are being incarcerated until they pay bail and bail is being used to pay their debts then they're being incarcerated to pay their debts and if you're wondering how the u.s. can get away with violating the united nations international covenant on civil and political rights it's.

minutes all defendants with latino last names setting bail at the alleged amount owed cuny school of law professor alan white explains in effect people are being incarcerated until they pay bail and bail is being used to pay their debts then they're being incarcerated to pay their debts and if you're wondering how the u.s. can get away with violating the united nations international covenant on civil and political rights it's because while the u.s. signed it congress never ratified it once again even americans without the personal liberty the constitution promises them who always always you see that over and over and over again i think hearing this thing over and over again where well we did but we didn't really ratify or. that's why we can use chemical weapons we don't really use we can use you know see all sorts of figures that are banned in other countries during war but we have to use them because. that to me is this is where their lives is disgusting i'm sorry but but debtors prison is you know it is illegal when the coasters includes as low and we shouldn't be allowing this to happen people

minutes all defendants with latino last names setting bail at the alleged amount owed cuny school of law professor alan white explains in effect people are being incarcerated until they pay bail and bail is being used to pay their debts then they're being incarcerated to pay their debts and if you're wondering how the u.s. can get away with violating the united nations international covenant on civil and political rights.

minutes all defendants with latino last names setting bail at the alleged amount owed can the school of law professor alan white explains in a fact people are being incarcerated until they pay bail and bail is being used to pay their debts then they're being incarcerated to pay their debts and if you're wondering how the u.s. can get away with violating the united nations international covenant on civil and political rights it's because while the u.s. signed it congress never ratified it once again leaving americans without the personal liberty the constitution promises them who've always always you see that over and over and over again i think hearing this thing over and over again where well we signed it but we didn't really ratify or. that's why we can use chemical weapons we don't really use we can use you know see all sorts of figures that are banned in other countries during war but we get to use them because. that to me is this is where their lives is disgusting i'm sorry but but debtors prison is you know is illegal when the comes to include. and we shouldn't be allowing this to happen people

of 2018. we cannot accept this is normal. we must address the and violence. stay with us for coverage. we will bring you updates as we get them on air and online.>>> staffer law school professor leading the recall of judge aaron persky said she received a letter in the mail this afternoon that contained white powder and a hate message. -- stanford.>> reporter: stanford law professor showed off her pulled magazines and letters from her mailbox in the faculty law lounge and was making tea when her former student opened one of the letters.>>> she said this one the envelope has white powder in it. at first it did not register as she was telling me. and then i realized i needed to tell the authorities.>> reporter: they got powder on their hands causing concerns it was hazardous. they washed their hands several times and call stanford police. santa clara county hazmat teams shutdown to classrooms in the law school. tested the powder and examined the note which contains a threat.>>> persky i am going to treat you like emily delp. let's see what kind of sentencing i get for being a rich white male. in a statement officials say the entered powder poses no health concern. and that thre

many others in fact gary isn't just a councilor of law he's a professor of law as taught classes really close just over the river at brooklyn law school we'll get to that interview in a minute plus we'll delve deeper into digital currencies and that debate with a very special guest reporter michael dell chrystia oh he's a senior reporter with coin desk which is the predominant global public. ation covering digital currencies this interview is a great get for a boom bust because michael is a guy who talks with the cutting edge people in the digital currency space i've got lots of questions for michael including what's the most interesting thing he sees in digital currencies that we don't know and before we go we'll take a quick tour of times square and the canyon of white sits behind me and the enormous energy that's all coming up but first we have a special guest. and we could not be in new york without calling upon our t. correspondent trinity charges who's done such a great job not just for boom bust but for our two american general attorney thank you for being with us here at nasdaq thank you for having me mark so we are here in on

of roadwork past high street. it's really not having a affect on traffic. this morning's commute on westbound bay bridge at the toll plaza, on the span, it all looks good.>>> stanford law school professor who is leading the recall of santa clara county judge says she is fine despite receiving a disturbing piece of hate mail at the school. our reporter reports and envelope was mailed to her that contained white powder and a violent threat. >> reporter: a stanford law professor said she told the magazines from the mailbox when her former student open one of the letters. >> she said this envelope has white powder in it. at first it didn't really register what she was telling me. and then i realize i needed to tell the authorities. >> reporter: both women say they got powder on their hands. causing concern that was hazardous. so they wash their hands several times with soap at the sink. they called the police. santa clara county has mac team shutdown to classrooms in the law school and picked up the powder for testing. in a statement the school officials say the powder poses no concern and that threats intended to intimidate our community are unacceptable. the judge is facing a recall effo

law school. and michelle dauber who you mentioned, she's the one who received the death threat. she's a professor of law at stanford. you probably heard her name. she led the recall effort against judge persky, and we don't know if that's related to that. that's why you've heard professor dau ber's name in the news. i'll send it back to you. >> okay. scott, while we have you, any injuries specifically to professor dauber or anyone you know of? >> reporter: we have not received any word. it was professor dauber her who said she got the white powder but no word of injuries or damage. >> all right. scott, we'll check back with you. again, it's professor dauber who is leading the recall efforts against judge persky. >>> in other news, a couple accused of establishingstabbing the side of the road and leaving her there are in the courthouse. authorities arrested them on monday. they beat and stabbed a 19-year-old earlier that day and left her for dead or a rural stretch of tesla road. a driver spotted the victim. rushed her to the hospital where she later died. strong evidence was found at the crime scene

of rights day. i'm at the national constitution center and my guest is professor noah feldman, author of the three lives of james madison. he is a professor of law at harvard law school and specializes in constitutional studies with emphasis on law and religion, constitutional design a t

, annette gordon-reed, professor reed, gordon-reed is the charles warren professor of american legal history at harvard law school. she is also a professor of history in the college of arts and sciences. her first foray into writing produced "lost at sea" which was written when she was 7. so she's an overachiever. since then she has authored or co-authored six historical studies, including the hemmings of montecello, the highly acclaimed book also won 15 additional awards, including the frederick douglass prize. her 2011 study of andrew johnson, the subject of her talk this morning was praised as brilliantly written and fair minded. the book is not available in the bookstore today. you'll have to order it. but i do have her most recent book. and that is co-authored. it is titled "the most blessed of patriarchs: thomas jefferson and the empire of the imagination." she will be available for a few minutes after her presentation to sign autographs, sign books for you. so please help me welcome one of my favorite authors, annette gordon-reed. [ applause ] >>> thank you so much. it's great to be here. last night was ju

school of law. he has held a number of endowed chairs and was a tenured professor including the chair in american legal history at the duke law school. he authored more than 200 scholarly authors including three or the national archives of was the author or editor a number of books including on constitutional law, the american -- american jewish history, civil rights and legal issues surrounding american sports. has -- numerous other many appellate briefs. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome paul finkelman. [applause] many thank you, thank you very much. for those of you that are scholars or have done genealogy or family history, you realize that we are in the temple of our world. this is the most important building in the united states with the possible exception of the library of congress. the two, they hold the information that makes us whole as people and as americans. if we are to understand our world, we have to understand how we got to where we are and the is by understand that coming here and getting our hands dirty and looking at really old stuff and havinghandt really old stuff and having ou

outside of federal government, she has been an associate professor of law, and georgetown university's antonin scalia a law school and a lawyer in private practice here in washington. we hear the department are grateful for her leadership, combating human trafficking efforts in many important issues. ladies and gentlemen, the associate attorney general of the united states. [applause] >> thank you, pratchett. thanks to all of you for joining us today. others have called human slavery,ng modern-day slavery, because trafficking victims are denied any dignity. there are often subjected to horrific psychological and physical abuse. they are treated as commodities which can be bought and sold over and over. combating this was one of the top priorities at the department of justice. as you'll hear throughout the are tackling it with our law enforcement tools, our financial resources and our partnerships with state and local law enforcement, industry, and service providers. and last year alone, the doj victims of nearly 500 defendants in sex trafficking. in a single operation last fall we freed it is for children. we are

law professor does not present a health risk. nbc bay area scott is live with late breaking details. scott, earlier we saw part of the law school was shut down. is that still the case? >> it's not, jessica. the law school is back open. law students are now walking around. but it was a scary scene early this afternoon when part of the law school, specifically the newcomb building, was partially shut down. there was a tent set up aeufplt white powder was discovered. it was a particular law professor, michelle tkaub daube. she has led the recall effort of judge persky. she said this one that arrived today was disguised as a party invitation. she said inside was a rape threat written and white powder. she talked to the authorities, as you said, the white powder was deemed to be nothing deadly or even unsafe. everything was cleared. we spoke to michelle and she said she would not back down from the fight from the recall. >> the recall campaign is not going to get intimidated. we are going to continue to stand with survivors even when we face these kinds of threats. >> reporter: i just spoke again with professor dauber. she said she'

outside of the federal government, miss brand has been an associate professor of law at george mason university antonin scalia law schoolr in practice here in washington. we here an at the department are grateful for her work on human trafficking issues and many, many other issues. ladies and gentlemen, the associate attorney general of the united states. [applaus [applause] >> thank you, patrick and thanks to all of you for joining us today to grapple with what we call a civil rights crisis, human trafficking. others called human trafficking modern day slavery because trafficking victims are denied their freedom and forced to live at the mercy of their traffickers and often subjected to horrific physical and psychological abuse. they are treated as commodities. as you'll hear throughout the day we're tackling it with our law enforcement tools, our financial resources and our partnerships with state and local law enforcement, industry, service providers. and last year alone, the doj victims of nearly 500 defendants in sex trafficking. in a single operation last fall we agreed 84 children. we are looking at doj grant fun

of rights day. i'm at the national constitution center and my guest is professor noah feldman, author of the three lives of james madison. he is a professor of law at harvard law school and specializes in constitutional studies with emphasis on law and religion, constitutional design and the history of legal theory and is the author of seven books. madison transformed the field more than anyone else. it's all constitutions everywhere. i thought, i was about to turn 40 and i thought i want something to really sink my teeth into federal spend my middle 40s on and win lose or draw, i've written something fat, and that's edited down considerably. the bottom line is, i wanted to do something i thought would be hard and long and maybe good and it was deathly hard and definitely long and now it's up to you whether you think it's good. i wanted to really dive in to the essential question of where did it all come from. who were the key people behind it. who made the world that we now live in. one of the fascinating things is that it turns out that although writing the constitution is the thing is most famous for, it was not the only thing of huge fundamental importance that h

many others in fact gary isn't just a councillor of law he's a professor of law as taught classes really close just over the river at brooklyn law school we'll get to that interview in a minute plus we'll delve deeper into digital currencies and that debate with a very special guest reporter michael dell chrystia he's a senior reporter with coin desk which is the predominant global publication covering digital currencies this interview is a great get for a boom bust because michael is a guy who talks with the cutting edge people in the digital currency space i've got lots of questions for michael including what's the most interesting thing he sees in digital currencies that we don't know and before we go we'll take a quick tour of time square and the canyon of white sits behind me and the enormous energy that's all coming up but first we have a special guest. and we could not be in new york without calling upon our tea correspondent trinity charges who's done such a great job not just for boom bust but for our two american general attorney thank you for being with us here at nasdaq thank you for having me mark so we are here in one of

iran to where our long history of fire and fury impacts today's complex world we welcome dan koblick a human rights attorney professor at university of pittsburgh school of law and author of the plot to attack iraq welcome. thank you for having me always a pleasure having you on brown of the. and i want to start when i say i feel like you know the title of your book and it's like i feel like this has been coming for a long time i mean the u.s. stance on iran is as you know it has been basically pretty hostile and become a trademark of kind of donald trump's republican party but how does it actually comparative the u.s. or any relationship historically i mean is the kind of aggression interference you know really all that new when you look at the u.s. as a relationship with iran. well no and in fact that's one thing i tried to emphasize in my book. is if you go back to one nine hundred fifty three in their audience remember this very well the cia's very first. date i was in iran the cia overthrew the democratically elected prime minister of iran mohammad most a deck and installed installed the shah of iran a king we then helped i should say the cia helped the

of rights. it is my tremendous pleasure to introduce our first guest and gerard magliocca is samuel r rosen professor at the indiana university robert mckinney school of law, he has written a series of books including the biography of john bingham, the james madison of reconstruction, the man who wrote the 14th amendment which guaranteed equal protection of the law and today he is here to discuss his new book, so new, the heart of the constitution, how - "the heart of the constitution: how the bill of rights became the bill of rights". please join me in welcoming gerard magliocca. [applause] >> so excited you are here. let's jump into the heart of this book, december 15, 1941, in the heart of world war ii and franklin roosevelt is common in a national radio address celebrating bill of rights day and this is preceded by a parade in chicago, new york, laguardia, presides over a parade with 10 placards bearing the first 10 amendments. there is a radio broadcast by hollywood celebrity called we hold these truths heard by 63 million americans where they hear orson welles, jimmy stewart and lionel barrymore celebrating the bill of rights. i love this detail abo

of u.s. citizens, a conversation georgetown university law school professor joshua -- be c-span washington journal 7:00 eastern morning. join the discussion. at the on c-span, a look future of russian politics and a iscussion about the country's direction under president putin. his was hosted by the atlantic council in washington, d.c. *-

of the coop author series. we are pleased to have with us orliy lobel. she has taught and lectured worldwide including law schools at yale, tel aviv and beijing. she is the professor of law at university of san diego and the or author of award winning business book "talent wants to be free." her most recent book, "you don't own me," was recently described in the new yorker as a hair-raising account of an epic tale, and the financial times describe asked it as a real page-turner of the decade-long court battle between toy companies over the ownership of the immensely popular bratz dolls. please join me in welcoming our guest for the evening, orly ol ol -- lobel. >> thank you. so this is really special for me to be here at the harvard coop bookstore because i spent many years as a graduate student here at harvard square, here at harvard university just roaming the shelves of the coop and loving it and really being inspired by all the different disciplines in a way that still continues to impact my research, my writing, my thinking about ethics and market competition and justice and all the, you know, interesting stuff that we see around us. how do we create culture,

attorney for the northern district of alabama and a professor at the university of alabama school of law, andness price spokesperson for the national security council and a former cia analyst. he's an msnbc national security analyst. ruth, i just want to get your reaction because this is a moving story with new elements coming out by the hour. your reaction about where this story stands tonight. >> well, the phrase fully aware is possibly the most maddening phrase i've ever heard here. if general kelly was not fully aware of the allegations against rob porter, it's only because he chose not to make himself fully aware because he heard something and you know, they're in this tribal mentality, circle the wagons in this white house. they convinced themselves that this was part of a smear campaign against rob porter orchestrated by his political enemies. and they just -- they didn't want to know. so if he didn't see this photo before yesterday, it's just because he didn't want to see the photo before yesterday. but when he saw the photo yesterday, let's just be clear about the timeline. that

attorney for the northern district of alabama and a professor at the university of alabama school of law, andness price spokesperson for the national security council and a former cia analyst. he's an msnbc national security analyst. ruth, i just want to get your reaction because this is a moving story with new elements coming out by the hour. your reaction about where this story stands tonight. >> well, the phrase fully aware is possibly the most maddening phrase i've ever heard here. if general kelly was not fully aware of the allegations against rob porter, it's only because he chose not to make himself fully aware because he heard something and you know, they're in this tribal mentality, circle the wagons in this white house. they convinced themselves that this was part of a smear campaign against rob porter orchestrated by his political enemies. and they just -- they didn't want to know. so if he didn't see this photo before yesterday, it's just because he didn't want to see the photo before yesterday. but when he saw the photo yesterday, let's just be clear about the timeline. that

. >> martha: joining me now is jonathan turley a law professor at george washington law school. jonathan, first of, your response to that conversation. you know, just hearing all that back and forth laid out again about michael flynn, your thoughts? >> well, it's ironic, isn't it? because it sounds like when comey was in charge of the fbi, flynn was not being seriously considered for criminal charge. it was not surprising that mueller's people when they came in saw him as an easy target. we have always tacked about the thousand and one prosecutions. the ability to say that someone lied or mislead an fbi agent. what i do think is absolutely clear and i have written about this before is there really was nothing wrong with that meeting with the russians. and incoming national security advisor is expected to have interactions. and i also agree that to the extent that yates was concerned about the logan act, it's really rather bizarre. because of the logan act is widely viewed as facially unconstitutional. it has never been used. it should be wiped off the books. but to say that. >> martha: just to cla

he's the michael r klein professor at harvard law school where he teaches courses on contracts and criminal law and regulation of race relations. he's also a former clerk of supreme court justice thurgood marshall. professor kennedy is the author of several books including race and crime and the law for which he received the robert f. kennedy book award and the forthcoming from protest to law, triumphs and defeats of the black revolts, 1948 through 1968. he has been with us quite a number of times. i know you'll find he is a dynamic, wonderful speaker and before we begin, i want to ask that if you have a cell phone, a beeper, please turn it off and also tonight we ask that no one takes photographs. so now for this wonderful gentleman, please welcome randall kennedy. thank you. [ applause ] >> thanks so much for the gracious introduction and even more for all of those who have made it possible for me to be here. i love coming to this auditorium and i love speaking to audiences here. because i find that the audiences here are usually invariably knowledgeable and curious and ask really challenging questions. i alwa

of democracy itself. jonathan temperature solid particularly distinguished professor at george washington university law school us tonight. professor, thanks for coming on. >> thanks. >> tucker: that's kind of the essence of the whole debate is to what extent should public policy be guided by the public's views in a democracy and obviously there strurecketsd, congress, judiciary, he can executive. basically if you get too far from what the public wants it's not democracy. >> we have limited democracy. you elect people to make decisions for you. you hopefully won't have too much of a disconnect at the end of the day between the policies being pursued ultimately those laws have to be written by people who are political representatives. >> tucker: exactly. >> and that means that the courts must we taken a fairly narrow role in this system otherwise the system doesn't work. madison created a system by which factional interests was sort of roll around between the legislative and executive branch in congress. out of that would come the major tarren compromise. work out our differences. that system only works if ther

law school office today. law professor michele dauber said the letter also contained a threat of rape.arlier this month, santa clara supervisors road voted to put the recall of judge aaron persky on the june ballot. he was criticized for sentencing a former stanford swimmer brock turner to six months in jail for sexual assault. >> in terms of the campaign, i'm not doing anything different. we are going to continue. this is going to make us work all that much harder to win this campaign. >> dauber says she opened the letter in the faculty lounge. the white powder was not hazardous. ♪[ music ] >>> high temperatures where they were yesterday a little warmer. it's breezy off the water. it's cool at the coast. sand is blowing. it's breezy. temperatures 65 in concord. 66 in san jose. that's within of the warm spots. and here we are, that's one of the warm spots. here we are. there's real weather there. we have just a few clouds for the next couple days. we are in a holding pattern. cold mornings and mild daytime highs. like today, mid-60s a few clouds out there right now. but as you look at

jamil jaffer, the founder of the security institute at the antonin scalia school of law at george mason school where he is a professor. he recently served as a clerk to justice neal gore such of the court.upreme prior to his current positions he held senior roles on the intelligence committee and in the george w. bush administration so welcome to each one of you. before i start questioning and hopefully we'll have a few q&a, i want audience to share with you all our thanks center of american progress to all of our coalition allies and partners. in the you are here room. all of you have been working as you ly and i think heard from senator klobuchar and not aary johnson, this is challenge that we are going to overcome by one person or one organization. to be a collective effort and i want to really call out verified voting and common so many other organizations for your incredible work. so please welcome our panel. [applause] ok. edgardo, i'll start with you, the election miracle. you showed the nation how a quickly upgrade -- based voting er systems. which virginia did last year, just weeks before the election. you t

to help answer questions, currently professor at ucla school of law, and back with us msnbc contributorhuck rosenburg. great to have you both with us. chuck, let's tackle the first question, if i may. there is a claim there was the okay to surveil carter page without this deal dossier democrats say it was just one factor of many. we don't know what the other ones are. how high is this when it comes to evidence that is actually needed to get a judge to sign off on the action? >> for any warrant whether it is in criticism cal court or before the fisa court the standard's the same and probably cause. where does that come from? the fourth amendment to the constitution. it is serious but not particularly high bar. i can tell you by having worked for director mueller with the fbi, one of my jobs was to review every fisa warrant before he certified it. dozens of lawyers aej agents in the fbi and department of justice before it before i review it. before director mueller certifies it. before it goes to attorney general for his signature. before it then goes to a federal district court judge on

. >>> eang hear to untangle the entire web of what's going on right now is renowned harvard law school profes were alan dershowitz. boy, professor, this is exactly what this is. this is the politicalization and the weaponization of agencies of the united state government, really say credi agencies like t would not be used on bias. >> this is one of th the leks wh counter accusations. day one i said this can't be trusted to a pecial counsel, can't be trusted to democrat, republican committees in congress. it should be an int nonpartisan commission to look into every aspect of this election, russian influence, democratic misconduct, republican misconduct. we need neutral objective assess pmenassessment. we're not going to do it through republican truth and democrat truth. we need american truth. david: professor, if there was a completely independent proctor, and it would be hard to find right now, but if there was one, don't you think with all of this information coming out about the phony fisa warrants and the trump dossier and all of the connections. now we have a connection between a democratic senator and a lawyer working for

of this investigation. on that note, let's bring in your leadoff panel. ken derainian is heand ann milligram, she is these days a professor and distinguished scholar at the nyu school of law. also with us, covering the president in florida, peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and an msnbc political analyst. ken, you get the long wind-up question, the first thoughtful person we have here tonight. what did we learn today? it's another way of asking what was proven? that was disproven? and what still dangles out there. >> i'm struck by some of the most significant things we learned do not prove the republican thee citisis shows corruption. it's the things you mentioned, the memo is clear, the investigation began as a result of the information about george papadopoulos. nothing to do with carter page. we also learn, and this was not known previously, or at least confirmed, that the surveillance of carter page began many months later in october of 2016. so what does that tell us? the investigation that became the mueller investigation was already well under way. whatever mistakes were made, and this is hotly disputed in the application for sur

of u.s. citizens. a conversation with georgetown university law school professor, watch c-span's "washington journal", live seven eastern on friday morning. join the discussion. >> now, live to synagogue in washington, d.c. for a conversation with ruth bader ginsburg. the supreme court associate justice will be -- to discuss the intersection of law, media and jewish life. we expect the rabbis to make opening remarks that will be getting underway shortly. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] >> starting shortly from the synagogue in washington, d.c., conversation with ruth bader ginsburg, with jamie eisner. they'll discuss the intersection of law, media, and jewish life. it should be starting soon. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] >> we will start in a few moments. once the program begins there be no exits

former federal prosecutor even professor at georgetown school of law. former fbi double agent and author of the book "how to catch a russian spy." natasha bertran covering national security and intelligence. curt bridle, from "the huffington post." curt, let me stt with you. the "l.a. times" is reporting that rick gates intendtolead guilty. also according to the "l.a. times" to cooperate with the prosecution and testify against paul manafort. when you're at special counsel build tag case, what's your reaction to the news? >> all about paul manafort and about what he knows. apparently he is not cooperative with special counsel. he is exercising his constitutional right to go to trial at the end of the day. 95% of people charged with crimes end up pleading guilty. manafort looks like he needs a lot of pressure but mueller seems to think he's got the goods or someone higher up in the chain. this is a campaign manager and present at a lot of meetings and contact with russians p mueller wants to know what manafort knows and gates, his business partner, is ke

of u.s. citizens, a conversation georgetown university law school professor joshua -- be c-span washington journal live at 7:00 eastern morning. join the discussion. at the on c-span, a look future of russian politics and a iscussion about the country's direction under president putin. his was hosted by the atlantic council in washington, d.c. *- >> good morning. -- i run the n atlantic council mere and thank you all for coming. for ve a wonderful program you this morning, and i should mention this is part of our on internal developments a russia, we begin with demographyoctober on in russia. >> we have a topnotch journalist from moscow, he's presented a and fascinating on russia politically. comment on that. former deputy secretary general will bat cleanup for us this morning and turn it over to the doctor. >> thank you very much. extend our to the re gratitude to ambassador, who invited me and to write a paper to center.cil and the thank you very much for coming for this event. persistence, of the he main topic paper that i wrote, and then we haveer, i argue that been witnessing the of the regim

joining me now, professor university of baltimore school of law kim whalely. what is behind door number one? >> it could be a superseding indictment. the original indictment against manafort and gates had unnamed accomplices mentioned in the indictment. they had entities known as company a, company b in the indictment. so the prosecutors the first round let some stuff open. they mentioned tax evasion and wrongdoing without actually charging those crimes. we could see from the original indictment there was space to make changes. we also heard perhaps mr. gates might be entering into some kind of plea deal that's been reported. we don't know if it's accurate or not. if that's the situation then with respect to him, it could look very different if the mueller team agreed to drop some charges in exchange for his cooperation. >> also knowing who person a is in that indictment we saw earlier this week, a source tells msnbc's katie ter that the guy who penned build the wall, one of trump's earlier campaign advisers, he's scheduled to meet with mueller's team today in

we kick off indiana university law school professor gerard magliocca's history of the bill of rights. >> hey, you guys. [appus