. >> host: so how about la quinta schuler? >> guest: the schuler's were down in florida. what they did was control the school board, control the council and control all of the local governments. so if you control the local government you control patrons. you control all the jobs. so what you do is you tell people and there is one particular family that i would write about the extended family that complained, that in fact if you don't get your entire family to vote for me, you're going to lose your job. you can lose your job because you didn't get everybody to vote or you can claim and they never did anything for the people in that community. the kinds of things they need. people often forgets that most of what you need on a daily basis comes from state and local government. presidential elections are exciting and all of the rest, and, and is in the congress and so on, but your day-to-day living depends on then. >> host: so let's just talk about local government piece for a minute, you get into a little bit of ferguson, we know we know about policing in terms of local, cou