this is brett schundler. there was a time he was a rising star in new jersey republican politics and in national republican politics. he was a free market loving jack kemp-style conservative. he was a well-meaning guy. no matter what you made of his politics, he cared deeply about connecting conservatism with the poor, with minorities, with voters who have long shunned the republican party. he made some money on wall street and then in 1992 at the age of 33 he got himself elected mayor of jersey city. a greaty town where only 6% were republicans. it was a totally unlikely, totally improbable victory by a conservative republican in a very nonconservative, nonrepubl nonrepublican city. schundler was on the rise. he got re-elected in 1997. there was a column saying he would be president of the united states by 2008. he made his big move in 2001. he ran for governor. he was an odd duck in the state republican party who put up their own candidate to oppose him and he won anyway. he was one step away from the gover

the education commissioner's name was bret schundler. he screwed up the race to the top application. chris christie said the number one rule of this administration is you don't lie to the governor. now bret schundler admitted that he and his teamed a screwed up the race to the top application, admitted he deserved to go, but did not like being called a liar. what happened a week later? bret schundler had documents, he had e-mails, he has records. he could prove that when chris christie called him a liar, he had not been a liar. chris christie and his administration had known bret schundler had talked to them. and i cannot help but think of them right now. because chris christie confidently got up there three years ago with all the cameras rolling and called him a liar, even though there was evidence out there that came back to haunt there. there is a precedent. >> now, you know wildstein a bit, and i heard your story you knee him indirectly because he ran your website. i'm watching this guy. i'm really try to empathize with people in tro

the education commissioner's name was brett schundler. he screwed up the race to the top application. chris christie said the number one rule of this administration is you don't lie to the governor. now brett schundler admitted that he and his teamed a screwed up the race to the top application, admitted he deserved to go, but did not like being called a liar. what happened a week later? brett schundler had documents, he had e-mails, he has records. he could prove that when chris christie called him a liar, he had not been a liar. chris christie and his administration had known brett schundler had talked to them. and i cannot help but think of them right now. because chris christie confidently got up there three years ago with all the cameras rolling and called him a liar, even though there was evidence out there that came back to haunt there. there is a precedent. >> now, you know wildstein a bit, and i heard your story you knee him indirectly because he ran your website. i'm watching this guy. i'm really try to empathize with people in

of education and chris christie tired him and called him a liar at a press conference and brett schundler'sred but i wasn't a liar. i didn't lie to the governor. and he took that -- he was so angry about that carrickry zigs that he took all these documents he had that proved he had kept the governor's office in the loop. he went forward with them. that has been in my mind since watching chris christie at the press conference saying over and over the bridgette kelly is a liar, if she will reach the point but she hasn't gotten there yet. >> i think there's a pattern. that's one of the things we'll be looking at is a pattern. he definitely has a pattern of calling people liars, firing them. for example, he didn't call this person a liar but he fired michelle brown and then rehired her. so when the right time comes he may rehire somebody. one other thing i want to say, there's a lot of talk about in the press conference last week the governor said i take responsibility. my personal opinion is just firing a bunch of people is not re really taking responsibility. it is taking an action but respon