schwartzman -- >> no, big banks. liz: richard a fairbank of capital one and mario gabelli. 63 now. liz: okay. [laughter] let's get to tiktok. >> eat the hat, eat, eat the hat. liz we get it. >> i'm eating the -- you see, you got me going now. i can't stop. tiktok is, like, literally the story that never ends. you know, i think on "the claman countdown" i broke the story in 2020 the that trump was forcing tiktok to essentially be sold. he wanted them off u.s. apps. it never happened. it was at the end of his administration. trump won. and microsoft was in there, you know, essentially doing the due diligence, doing real deal work. they were trying to do a deal. that's 2020. and so now we're in 2025, and we're back to square one. again, this is a difficult deal, liz. it's not going to be cheap. remember, the chinese own it, that's why there's so much controversy. people think the chinese are stealing the data that that's on , that is scrubbing the data the that's on on the finish that people, essentially is users give as they use the algorithm. if there's lots of spy craft stu