. >> ryan schweitzer said will it be the hillary that leads the progressives? the hillary that says i'm going to win the democrat tech nomination and so i can shift hard right on day one. david axelrod said this about brian schweitzer today on "morning joe." >> he's anti-gun control very strongly on the nra side of that issue. he has strong detractors because of the nature of his support for drilling and other aspects of the oil industry which is part of the economy in that part of the country. he does not have the perfect record to run an insurgent campaign from the left. >> joining me now, adam green, co-founder of the progressive change committee and karen finney. karen, how much room is on hillary clinton's left for a democratic run? >> i think there is a fair amount but i think this idea that she's going to go hard right is a little ridiculous. i don't think anybody would see hillary as a hard right. she might be a center-left person but a hard right i think is unfair. >> adam green, you know, if she runs unopposed, i imagine you would expect certainly a d

schweitzer said i didn't vote for that war, and i didn't think it was good idea.ot a bunch of democrats to go to that war. i was just shaking my head in montana. though he didn't mention clinton by name, it's pretty clear who he was talking and taking aim at. according to the des moines register, after his speech, asked about clinton's votes, schweitzer answered with a grin on his face, did she vote for it? i didn't keep track. i think there were 21 democrats who didn't vote for it. she might have been one of those. well, actually, there were 23 senate democrats who didn't vote for the war, and hillary clinton did vote for the war. so here we go. the race is on. joining me now, rapid response panel ruth connell for the progressive magazine, and michael eric dyson, georgetown university professor and msnbc political analyst. great to have both you have with us. ruth, is this -- from brian schweitzer's standpoint, is this the perfect way to tell hillary clinton that you know what? there is going to be some competition. >> it's one way. i think he said a few other th

the former montana governor, brian schweitzer telling iowa democrats what only yesterday that secretary clinton's decision to support military inaction in iraq was the wrong decision. what's go on here? schweitzer, his name has been thrown out as well as foenpoten democratic candidate even though he's not well-known. >> reporter: that's right. he's throwing his own name out there. brian schweitzer a former two-term democratic governor of montana, self-styled prairie pop lift who likes to talk about economic issues. he came through iowa last night and gave a speech to a liberal group called progress iowa here. and he, you know, brought up hillary clinton's iraq war vote. he didn't mention her by name but it was clear who he was talking. tack a listen to what he said last night in iowa, wolf. >> anybody who runs in the cycle, whether democrats or republicans, if they were in the united states senate and voted with george bush to go to iraq when i'd say 98% of america knows it was a folly, a waste of treasure and blood, and if they voted to go to iraq, there will be questions for them. en

schweitzer being a progressive has not always been the case. he's a populist.t and a progressive. >> you have some experience with running an insurgent presidential candidate. do you think schweitzer is a plausible democratic candidate for 2016 and if he is what would you tell him to do to get his campaign going own make it plausible if he wanted to give it a go this next time around? >> he, as you know, he's a very talented and entertaining guy. whether he's a plausible candidate or not is a big question. you know, he is anti-gun control, very strongly on the nra side of that issue. he has strong detractors in the environmental community because of the nature of his support for drilling and other aspects of the oil industry which is part of the economy in that part of the country. he does not have the perfect record to run an insurgent campaign from the left in a democratic party but, john, i would say a point he's making about hilary as she moves forward is an important point. i saw hilary in 2007. not a good candidate. she got bad ad views. in 2008 i thought

billions of creatures who are all incredibly sensitive and you know i think it was either albert schweitzer or i'm stein said you know the question isn't do animals have an intellectual life the question is do they have an emotional life and. anyone who's ever been around animals knows full well that animals have incredibly profound emotional lives are incredibly sensitive and i just feel like it's incumbent upon me and hopefully the rest of us to sort of like decrease the amount of suffering we cause while we're alive right and we're so detached from the food that we know i think if people really saw the suffering then they would be absolutely horrified. i mean the food industry has so much autonomy so much political influence i mean just look at monsanto alone how can we ensure that the food we're eating is safe and not destructive the environment and doesn't contribute to the suffering of creatures. will one thing when we put out the book gristle which is about factory farming. i was asked that question like what could we do what one thing could we do that would sort of i don't know make

one thing that amazes me we can't get an answer to a report we broke on this program with peter schweitzer, did the president meet alone with kathleen sebelius. she struggled with that answer. have we confirmed they have had meetings since 2010? not to my knowledge. this is inexcusable that there was this little oversight going on in the launching of this significant enterprise in which the government is ill equipped to act. i want to emphasize that this is about so much more than just a website. in many respects this administration would like us to focus more on the website because the website is the thing that can be easy fixed. the bigger problems relate to the fundamental unfairness of the law. the unworkability of the t law. it's te be hind the website that's causing millions to lose their health coverage. >> we have a series of promises the president made. how many millions of americans do you think lose the plan they wanted to keep. do we have an estimate? will it be as high as $100 million? >> we have a study out by with aei that suggests it's about a hundred million. we have a duk

this is the former montana governor, brian schweitzer. he's thinking about running for the democratic presidential nomination and had this allusion to hillary clinton, who is also thinking about it. >> george bush got a bunch of democrats to vote to go to that war. i was just shaking my head in montana. i'm asking you to pick the leaders that are going to say we're not going to make those mistakes. >> hillary clinton when she was a senator voted to go to war in iraq. >> and this young guy who had no chance of being the democratic nominee was a senator from illinois, barack obama, i think, used that in 2008. he happens to be president. so what is schweitzer out there doing, trying to test. can you recreate the 2008 dynamic in 2016 against hillary clinton. if you're hillary clinton, you are probably thinking huh? i'm not even sure he runs in the end but if not, it's not smart, if you will, i don't want to call it not stupid, but is there any traction against this woman, why not try what worked last time. >> sometimes the best record is no r

a dark horse candidate, brian schweitzer has indicated he might launch a bid for the white house.told real clear politics there's a whole lot of america that looks at each other and says well, there's 340 million people living in america. isn't there somebody else other than a bush or clinton who can be president in these modern times? it could be that the 75 year old governor of california, there he is jerry brown, who began his career in 1969 might be considering a fourth run for the white house. what a run he's had. the l.a. times said some are pushing him to try for another try for the white house even if it means taking on hillary rodham clinton. let me ask you this, you study the numbers, numbers, numbers. i would like to see a fight for the primaries. almost like the crazy fight i expect on the other side, for interest. and i think the issues ought to be debated. are we going into another iraq? i want to hear them say we're not going into another middle east war. >> there is going to be a primary, whether hillary wins or not. >> i'm hoping for something where it might just

one thing that amazes me we can't get an answer to a report we broke on this program with peter schweitzer, did the president meet alone with kathleen sebelius. she struggled with that answer. have we been able to confirm if they had any meetings since 2010? not to my knowledge. this is inexcusable that there was this little oversight going on in the launching of this significant enterprise in which the government is very ill equipped to act. i want to emphasize that this is about so much more than just a website. in many respects, i think this administration would like us to focus more on the website because the website is the thing that can perhaps most easily be fixed even though it's apparently very difficult to do. the bigger problems relate to the fundamental unfairness of the law. the fundamental unworkability of this law. it's what's behind the website that's most troubling. what's behind the website that's causing millions to lose their health coverage. others to lose their job and have wages cut and hours slashed. >> we have a series of promises the president made. how many milli

martin o'malley, 18% and brian schweitzer, 16%.e certainly know hillary clinton and joe biden. do these numbers surprise you in any way, wolf? >> they all like them and -- excuse me. these are self-identified democrats in the poll and they clearly all know hillary clinton and joe biden. most people in iowa, including democrats, don't know much about brian or martin o'malley but they know a lot about hillary clinton and joe biden. so once again, obviously if hillary clinton decides to run and that's still an if, if she decides to run, she's got a very strong opportunity. if joe biden decides to run, he's got a strong opportunity. some people think if hillary runs, joe biden won't run. we shall see. we still have time to sort it all out. >> and that is so key, we still have some time. i remember when michele bachmann was running in the republican polls and a week later everything changed and kept on changing until election time. >> ashleigh, a couple cautionary points. if you go back -- >> i think i was in high school then. tell me w

. >> peter schweitzer argues that contrary to popular belief, big money interests do not control politicians. he says that it's the politicians who extort money from corporations and other wealthy groups, noting that members of congress often introduce legislation for no other reason than to get donations from groups that will be impacted by it. this is about 50 minutes. [applause] >> thank you for that warm introduction. i actually got originally involved at young america's foundation, i had an interest in national affairs which i still have and, actually, ran across a very important news item today that, i guess, was encouraging. apparently, the cia has

you see her out there, she'll watch the democrats, like schweitzer, check the environment.she was inevitable before. in 2007 she was inevitable, unbeatable, impossible. oh, that nice kid barack obama, lookal himself testing himself on a national stage. look what happened. if you're hillary clinton and you remember 2008, to lose is painful. to lose is painful, especially to fall from so high and lose is painful. you have to think about that. >> she's also a quick learner. you know she's not going to make that mistake or let that happen twice. >> can i sneak a quick question in? >> sure. >> you had the team building exercises, the barbecue at the cuomos and all that? >> yes. >> how about the three of you on the high wire between the cable cars. >> we're on it every day. >> john, only if you join us. >> sure. let's go. >> he'd join us with the net. >> exactly. he'll be the only one with a harness. >> i'll buy the beer at the end. >> i'll take it. i'll need it before. >>> coming up on "new day," prosecutors in the teen affluenza case aren't giving up on trying to lock up ethan

interview that will air next week on iowa public television, iowa public radio reporter reports that schweitzer're a democracy and we don't just choose the royal families. now we're talking about a bush or clinton again. i think in america we're always looking for leadership that takes us to the future. we're not often looking in the rearview mirror for our leadership. >> for the clintons to suggest they're not friendly with the people on wall street would not be authentic. i said it is harder for a woman to be an angry populist. and being angry and expressing rage about wealthy people making money and taxing them as a way to make up for it. everybody in this country whether they're middle class or less affluent want to be more affluent. they all want to be the rich person. a better message is let's grow from the middle class out. that's the message that hillary clinton needs. >> i agree. every time i've seen a candidate about to lose the election on the democratic side, i've almost always been rooting for that person. they go populist. ted kennedy, you were with him when he lost to carter. the

had to pick somebody who follow through and challenge her other than joe biden, it would be brian schweitzerthe former governor of montana who is a populist. >> and larry, as we move on to our naughty list, the losers of 2013, i'm going to start with you on this. did president obama land on this list? i think i sort of know the answer. at least i know the answer that i would give. what do you say? >> oh, yes. i would put him at the top of the losers list. he put himself at the top of the loses list. he admitted he had had the worst year of his five as president. now, you know every year is different. i'd have to say 2014 doesn't look a whole lot better. it's the midterm election year. obama is down to 41%. frankly, the sixth year of a two-term presidencicy usually not always but usually is not a very good year for the incumbent white house party. so i think the president's going to have another tough year. >> should he have been a loser this year? >> he had a bad year if you judge him by what he wanted to get accomplished and what he got accomplished. the three big things he ran on he wanted

. >> peter schweitzer argues that contrary to popular belief, big money interests do not control politicians. he says that it's the politicians who extort money from corporations and other wealthy groups, noting that members of congress often introduce legislation for no other reason than to get donations from groups that will be impacted by it. this is about 50 minutes. [applause] >> thank you for that warm introduction. i actually got originally involved at young america's foundation, i had an interest in national affairs which i still have and, actually, ran across a very important news item today that, i guess, was encouraging. apparently, the cia has developed the new covert operation to undermine al-qaeda. i don't know if you guys have read this, it's a plan that's going to, basically, destroy the recruiting, it's going to disrupt their operations, and it's going to bankrupt the organization. it's actually a very simple plan. you see, the cia's going to hire the obama white house to design the al-qaeda web site. [laughter] [applause] well, i don't need to tell this audience that washin

with me is lamar schweitzer with his two robots. franksy and fonzie. what part of your robot was three deprinted? >> this is frankie. he was completely three deprinted. all the structural parts. all the white stuff here is all three deprinted. black boxes are server motors but everything else is 3-d printed. melissa: how long did it take? >> design took nine months. it was an exercise where 3-d technology could have effect on robotic industry. melissa: what is the point of that robot? what does he do? >> the objective was really to reduce the cost of humanoid robots. humanoid robots, we've been selling them, my company, specializes in humanoid robots. we've been doing this several years. our customers are primarily universities and advanced hobby robotics engineers. we wanted to bring humanoid robots to a wider audience and that 3-d printing has evolved so much in the past couple of years we thought, why not create a robot that is completely 3-d printed and reduce the cost and make it accessible to much wider audience. melissa: how much would that robo

he likes d s brian schweitzer t come in and shake things up. >> what other kinds of variables are theutsiders are significant. >> there are millions of dollars floating out in political money that may want to influence it. most important to a campaign who the third party or parties will be against. >> the latest poll in pennsylvania which is a big swing state shows how close a clinton christie race will be. >> very interesting. peter. thank you very much. >> well millions of target shoppers targeting eidentity thieves. our legal panel will be weighing in on this. ups and fedex and how customers are coping. i've got a big date, but my sinuses are acting up. it's time for advil ld and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is that won't relieve all your symptoms. hmm? [ male annouer ] new alka seltzer plus-d reliev more symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. thanks for the tip. [ male announcer ] no problem. oh...a hair products. aisle 9. [ inhales deeply ] oh what a relief it is. ♪ s. >>> not news alert the suspect pleading not guilty there he is paul anty knee ciancia enterin

peter schweitzer said look, ignorance not an excuse. >> ignorance is not an excuse.t the rollout is going to work and it's going to go well. and it's really incumbent upon a president to contact the people that are involved in this initiative. presidents do that during war. they do that during times of peace, on domestic issues. there is no excuse for him to be this detached on this important piece of legislation which is reorienting a sixth of our entire national economy. >> when the president came out and said i was never told directly that the web site would have these kind of problems, and yet it was not going to work, so i had no idea, you're right. i believe the president. he had no idea. but facts show and the memos reveal that kathleen sebelius knew and she should have found a way to tell him and he should have been meeting regularly to know about this. >> i think he probably did know, but he never was told by her. i'm sure she told people, valerie jarrett and valerie jarrett whispered in his ear. in my art, i think he probably knew. >> there is no good scena

i talked a potential presidential candidate a few weeks ago, that what he would propose, brian schweitzervernor of montana. we'll see what is left of healthcare in the post-obama era. jamie: it is trying to stay up and running for people to attempt to get coverage. thank you so much. nice to meet you. >> thanks. jamie: gregg. gregg: well despite the troubled cks for the obamaut and numerous administration the president says that the economy is on the way up, poised for a major rebound in the new year. >> as we head into next year with an economy stronger than it was when we started the year. more americans are finding work and experiencing the pride of a paycheck. our businesses are positioned for new growth and new jobs, and i firmly believe that 2014 can be a breakthrough year for america. gregg: doug mckelway is live in honolulu where the president is on vacation. so, doug, there is good news on the economy, but you know still a lot of uncertainty out there? >> reporter: that's right. on the good news front, take for example, the latest economic barometer which came out from the commer

. >> let's call that a very early trial balloon from governor schweitzer to see if 2016 can be 2008 alls hillary clinton absolutely need to make a decision? when does she need to say, yes, i'm running for president? >> reporter: you know, she wants to wait as long into 2014 as she can to see what happens in the mid-term elections to see what the dynamic is, how the economy recovers, to see what the president does about the nsa, to see what president obama's approval ratings are. because she can be tied to the administration in so many ways. most people think she should make it by the middle of the year. she might try to hold on a little longer closer to the elections. again, she has this luxury and more time than anyone else because she is not starting from zero. there is a campaign in waiting and the infrastructure is already there and growing by the day. so she can wait, depending how other things go, whether any democrats, other democrats make a mark, she'll try to wait as late into the year as she can and probably can wait pretty late. >> all right. john king, many thanks to you. >>

you think it's going to martin o'malley or brian schweitzer or elizabeth warren.ree with you on biden. chuck, thank you very much. we'll see you on "the daily rundown." julie thank you as well. ben smith, stay with us if you can. coming up the year that wasn't. the ap's adam geller says 2013 will be best known for missed opportunities. he joins us next to explain that, but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> more of that four-letter word, mika. >> oh, god. no. >> unfortunately this one is coming in during a tuesday during the day as everyone is driving to work in new england. this morning, a coating of snow in indianapolis to columbus, little quick mover near cincinnati too. be careful out there. only dropped to about an inch or less, but still slippery. for the next storm. first the cold blast comes in. temperatures really dropping now across the great lakes and the northern plains. that's going to come through the northeast. here comes the snow. the timing of it, monday night near chicago, detroit, pittsburgh, overnight, and then tomorrow m

we're trying to get the white house logs, the visitor logs as peter schweitzer was reporting.ing any of the white house briefings, the mainstream media has been pretty tough on jay carney and this administration because, look, you can't avoid it. the fact is that the rollout of obama care has been a mess. the website was a disaster when it first came out. the promise, if you like your plan, you can keep your plan was clearly broken. and, you know, it's just too impossible to ignore. so, as i say, i think that horse is already out of the barn. >> so how are congressional democrats feeling this morning? are they still feeling kind of panicky as they have been the last couple of months about obama care? do they think things are getting better? >> well, clearly they are getting better. better is a relative word. the website is working a lot better in december than it was in october or november. i can't imagine that they're filled with great confidence about it, tuck er. on the other hand, all of these people in the senate were passed by a single vote. each one of those democrats u