we would like to talk with schwerin, who is the executive director of the department of adult services. the chair of the dignities fund. with the city and county of san francisco. welcome. our country in every minges ability is looking at issues of aging and all the values of the country and state and locale exercise with values into services and understanding of the way that people age and the kinds of services that they need. and so i'm wondering if you can just give us a short history of what the department of aging and adult services is here. >> certainly. thank you. so san francisco has a long history of providing services for older adults and adults with disabilities. i think we are a leader in that. the department has been around for a long time. but it came together with a lot of services. our biggest program is in-home supported services which provides homecare for 22,000 people in san francisco. but we do a lot of other things as well. >> so the department is 17 years old? >> yes. although the city was providing services well below -- before that. so there are a lot of things