either that person was not in scientology, or the wife wasn't in scientology? the personperson doing the pressure -- are they specific. >> the allegations of abortion are personal. women withs women or a husband would say this happened to me, and you see sometimes in court suits where they specified dates like this. the church's response is categorically, we don't do that. >> i've read a couple of your articles and another book about scientology, looking forward to reading your book in total, but mr. hub bar comes across as a ma levi lent leader. has hey really denatured scientology or is what he is doing a follow-on from the principles instilled by l. ron hubbard? >> well, david and l. ron hubbard are different in one way. david grew up in scientology and l. ron hubbard did not. you can't say that david is not a creation of scientology because he joined it when he was a young teenager. he joined the seals when he was 16 after dropping out of high school. his entire adult life and most of his entire life has been lived inside this organization. so he is a manif

hollywood so scientology has become one of the major landlords and holiday -- scientology. there was a church publication put out shortly after the founding of the church with a roster of perspective celebrities that included people like bob hope, walt disney, marlena dietrich, howard hughes some of the most famous people in the world but those are the kinds of people who they sought to use as pitchman for their new religion. celebrities did come to the church. they built a celebrity center so celebrities would feel at home there and in some of the early people that came into the church where rock hudson passed through apparently he got very upset when he was the middle of an auditing session and he needed to put more money in the parking meter and they wouldn't let him out of the room. he stormed out of never came back. gloria swanson was a faded movie star of silent movies. later people like leonard cohen and andy ben elvis presley made a stop. he didn't stay in the church but his widow and daughter are still prominent members. the idea was celebrities are useful. they be

ron hubbard's great grandson about scientology stick around. i've read it and i think a society that. big corporation trying to convince. can do i'm trying to put all that all about money and i think that's only make for politicians writing the laws and regulations. on the health. care just to lead. today from buying. up that. but. according to pew research center eighty four percent of the world's people identify with a religion many of these faiths have stood the test of time and are rooted in centuries old historical tradition however one very prominent religion was created just sixty years ago yes i'm talking about scientology founded by none other than science fiction writer a ron hubbard but not every member of the hubbard family is a member of the church his great grandson jamie dewolf is actually one of the most outspoken critics of what he calls a cult. my family written out of existence and this disciple will never know the legacy of lies that i still carry in my last name the wall cover story so protect us from my great grandfather's

jamie joined me earlier to talk about all things scientology. almost actually oddly one of my greatest inspirations when i was a kid because he was a writer and he was a science fiction writer and even as a young kid i was given a lot of his books for christmas and stuff like that of his volumes and of mission earth in particular and as a little kid i was like this guy's a bad ass you know he has all these covers of guys and machine guns in laser guns and you know rocket ships and and it was i grew up that is christian hilariously enough and i actually had to learn who l. ron hubbard really was and what else he wrote the side science fiction in a book a pastor gave me about cults specifically and that was what started a larger conversation because in my family he was literally something we didn't talk about so he was my great grandfather his first son was l. ron hubbard jr who was my grandfather and his first child was my mother so i was the oldest child i was the oldest grandchild and. i mean it was just something that nobody ever wanted to dis

ron hubbard's great grandson about scientology stick around. on november the fifth more than four hundred cities around the globe are hosting mass rallies and just just. follow million mask march on our t.v. and r t dot com. economic down in the final. days. and the rest. of the every week. the the. according to pew research center eighty four percent of the world's people identify with a religion many of these faiths have stood the test of time and are rooted in centuries old historical tradition however one very prominent religion was created just sixty years ago yes i'm talking about scientology founded by none other than science fiction writer are ron hubbard but not every member of the hubbard family is a member of the church his great grandson jamie. as actually one of the most outspoken critics of what he calls a cult. my family written out of existence and this disciple will never know the legacy of lies that i still carry in my last name the wall cover story to protect us from my great grandfather's true children the army of empty who

ron hubbard's great grandson about scientology stick around. zachary what happened that day i don't know but a woman killed. piers later is when i got arrested for. for a crime i did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about polygraph results. and people to confess to police officers don't beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this is like meant no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse they were off taking they could do what they wanted they could say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. drugs some of the sixteen percent of imports came from illegal fishing. the european union is ironically taking fish from some of the poorest nations on earth so this is a very serious and very urgent problem that needs immediate international action. on foot the territorial waters the fish they load the fish on to the ships and leave for a year a. good. illegal

ron hubbard's great grandson about scientology stick around. so the bank of england if you open it up the walls you won't see gold you won't see silver you want to even see bitcoin what you'll see and mountains and mountains of garbage and trash and gutter oil and dead bodies and bourbon kings dresses that used to wear when he was not seen governing the bank of england before and old guys from the old victorian era stacked up like firewood rotting and that's the collateral that is the doctor saying the real state speculation which i have only one. conclusion and that is. lost but it's a question of when. some of the sixteen percent of imports came from illegal fishing. the european union is ironically taking fish from some of the poorest nations on earth so this is a very serious and very urgent problem that needs immediate international action. on the territorial waters of the fish they load the fish into the ships and leave. illegal fishing just taking the bread out of our mouths. live. live . i've. lived lived. lives . according to pew resea

ron hubbard the founder of scientology jamie talking about his controversial family legacy and why he thinks the church is really a brainwashing cult. oh it was actually oddly one of my greatest inspirations when i was a kid because he was a writer and he was a science fiction writer and even as a young kid i was given a lot of his books for christmas and stuff like that of his volumes and of mission earth in particular and as a little kid i was like this guy's a bad ass you know he has all these covers of guys that sheen guns in laser guns in . you know rocket ships and and it was i grew up that is christian hilariously enough and i actually had to learn who l. ron hubbard really was and what else he wrote the side science fiction in a book a pastor gave me about cults specifically and that was what started a larger conversation because in my family he was literally something we didn't talk about so he was my great grandfather his first son was l. ron hubbard jr who was my grandfather and his first child was my mother so i was the oldest child i was the oldest grandchild and. i mean

coming up a plan interview i did with a personal family member of the scientology family foundation. i want to underline the moment like. i said you know. pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i roll researcher. think that. we're going to go digital the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy albus. role. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and our craft semi-colons we've been a hydrogen lying handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers once built up i'm tom hartman and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem trucks rational debate and a real discussion critical issues facing america to find ready to join the movement then welcome to the big picture. this is my ego like whenever i'm feeling a little low i'd want to look at all this i still can't believe it i still plan to and so did. my

ron hubbard the founder of scientology jamie talking about his controversial family legacy and why he thinks the church is really a brainwashing cult. i was actually oddly one of my greatest inspirations when i was a kid because he was a writer and he was a science fiction writer and even as a young kid i was given a lot of his books for christmas and stuff like that of his volumes and of mission earth in particular and as a little kid i was like this guy's a bad ass you know he has all these covers of guys that sheen guns in laser guns and you know rocket ships and and it was i grew up that is christian hilariously enough and i actually had to learn who l. ron hubbard really was and what else he wrote aside science fiction in a book a pastor gave me about cults specifically and that was what started a larger conversation because in my family he was just literally something we didn't talk about so he was my great grandfather his first son was l. ron hubbard jr who was my grandfather and his first child was my mother so i was the oldest child i was the oldest grandchild and. i mean it

tom cruise's reputation influences and defects scientology. how powerful is he in scientology? what roles does he play for the church? >> tom cruise has been the visible face of scientology for decades now. there is no more famous or influential scientology asked in the church since l. ron hubbard created it. since the beginning, the church wanted some exemplary figure that could stand for the church. they didn't get bob hope, they didn't get walt disney but they did get tom cruise, and they really got him. he is the very devoted member of the church. the leader of the church now says everybody -- every minute, forget what the figure was, 5,000 people are awakened to the idea of scientology because of tom cruise. there is no way of knowing how to evaluate such a statement but no question people know about scientology because of tom cruise. when he uses celebrity megaphone, you are tied to their behavior and sometimes it is not always an advantage for the organization that is represented by celebrity but of all the celebrities in scientology, no one is a greater moral responsibi

that is what scientology really is.b trail into his mind. the further you go into the church, the deeper into both ron hubbard's mind you go. ♪ ♪ >> now our in and your screen is a live picture of chipra yony's in new york city where the 64th annual national awards are being held. while the guests are eating dinner we want to show you another one of the finalists in the nonfiction category. >> when i'm asked where did this book come from and away the answers it came from iraq oddly enough even though this is a book very much focused on america. when i was covering iraq and the war for the new york are, my initial sense of why everything was imploding their was to blame individual leaders and we know who they are and they were to blame. there were gross failures on the part of him is to everyone in the highest positions of responsibility but over time, iraq came to seem more and more like a failure of american institutions. no matter how much money and how much effort and even how much talent and good will we at that cou

and i don't have anything bad to say about scientology because i think they're great. dongs,now, songs about starring -- >> jon hamm. >> that's jon hanging with his co-star, jon jr. >> this gentleman is knownn hollywood for having a large penis and not a fan of the tight panties. >> it's like a baseball bat in pants. >> i know he gets mad when people talk about it but he should start wearing underwear. >> he doesn't really get mad. gosh, stop talking about that, why do peop care, oh, man. had a weiner like that, i would do that all the time. just around the corner. as for jon. >> he's packing. we're all impressed with your fancy clothes but not as much as your -- >> fire hose. >> you shouldn't have to wear underwear but please watch out zippers down there. oh, ben stiller, you scarred us for life. finish jon, you taught us a luab lesson. uncircumcised. >> jon's not kosher. a tripod.m is >> we got amber portod, teen mom, just got out of jail and we got her with gary. guys getting back together? friends?ing >> that's a bad way of putting it. he's back with her? no.o, no,

a vacant throne in scientology.e bit difficult because they don't want to think of themselves specifically as a religion except for tax purposes. that is critical that they bill themselves as a technology and it's not a belief system so much as a technology. step-by-step can build yourself up to achieving spiritual enlightenment. >> is it as far as the rs is concerned? >> guesstimate assistant interesting story. and for some reason he decided not to tax on the church of scientology. and they didn't have a billion dollars and so it was an existential moment for the church. they had to get a tax exemption. and was a leader then and they filed 2400 losses against individual agents and detectives to follow them around and irs agents to go out and find who is sleeping around and drinking too much and they would write articles about them and they would, you know, it was very upsetting to the irs. but whatever the merits of the case was that they presented, the facts were that they had agencies and eventually they forgave

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>> it's a term from scientology. hubbard who was the founder of scientology came up with is concept that if you could purge one side of your mind of all the neuroses and fears and so on through scientology would become clear. in other words he would be kind of superhuman. you would no longer get colds in your intelligence would be higher and you know live forever it was an interesting concept but there weren't -- to prove his case. >> how much time did you spend on the book in what was it like researching the church of scientology? >> you know it was really difficult because there were a lot of people that were quite frightened. they were afraid of punishment by the church or afraid of losing family members who would never talk to them again and something i had never run into like this before, so many key people had signed on -- nondisclosure agreements with the church legally obligated not to talk, millions of millions of dollars to talk to me. many people who had never spoken before actually confided their stories

and says katie holmes divorced him to protect suri from scientology. >>> and good morning, america. jam-packed friday. had so much news to get to. two big special events as well. josh goes behind the scenes for the emotional reunions with soldiers and their loved ones. and i love what you call it. "operation homecoming." >> the families joining us live this morning. i cannot wait to see them again, after one of the great nights that i was allowed to spend when they all found each other again. it was beautiful. absolutely beautiful. >>> and speaking of waiting. wait to put on the mascara until after you see this incredible homecoming. we're glad that you're bringing it to us. >>> also, "gma's" great car giveaway. all comes down to the fifth and final clue somewhere in our program. these are the three brand-new cars. and the key to unlocking one of them is just ahead. we'll get to that. but let's get right to the massive storm that's slamming the philippines. it's happening right now. isn't it, sam? >> this is one of the lifetime events that i don't think we'll see in our lives again.

so scientology has a huge presence in clear water. a vast number of properties and they have tried to make that community feel a little more at ease with their presence, but it's been difficult because at one point, for instance, they tried to frame the mayor with a false hit-and-run and at one point they did the same thing with him trying to pretended he had an affair with somebody. it was, you know, they have not made themselves welcome there. >> host: lawrence wright. "going clear: scientology." here is the cfer of -- cover of the book. thank you for joining us in miami. >> guest: thank you. >> host: it's always a pleasure. the next panel coming up live from the miami book fair. one on the dwo. -- development of america. two historians will be up here. nathaniel philbrick and brenda wineapple. "ecstatic nation: confidence, crisis, and compromise, 18-48-1877" this is live coverage on booktv as we take you back to chatman auditorium. [inaudible conversations] ♪ ♪ >> good afternoon. hello, everybody. welcome to the 30th miami book fai

"going clear: scientology, hollywood, and the prison of belief" by lawrence wright.k award in non-fiction goes to george packer. [cheering and applause] ♪ [cheering and applause] ♪ this is an incredible honor. anyone at last night's reading knows all of the nominees in this category did great work. and i feel very lucky to be given this award. thank you to my friend, john, alex star, and the rest. you do it the old fashioned way which is still the best way. [applause] thank you to danielle and david and others at the new yorker for giving me just the right balance of freedom and editorial brilliance. thank you to my friend, dexter for being there from the start. to my mother and sister nancy and ann packers. writers both so they understand. my children, charlie and julia. i won't say you made it any easier but you made it a lot more fun. [laughter] to laura, my love, thank you for sharing my life and my work. i can't imagine either one without you. and finally, i want to thank dean price, tammy thomas, jeff, and other americans who gave me the great gift of trusting

scientology is back in the spotlight. all of those tngs, i wonder if heaid -- >> he's suing them for50 million, money he doesn't need. again, when it strikes that chord in you whe you live, your pride is, ego, putation and i guess that'st. he just says, m a good father anthis is -- yeah. like i told you, sue wn it's about your children, not y. >> we have to talk abo these nes because how can not? we're going have a wine drink off, okay? there are twwines on our table. one is fm "duck dynasty" and and o is from downtown abb okay? >> both of them in the wine buness. >>e don't know which one's which. >> no. the downtown abby one is blanc white and it's $14.99 and the "duck dynay" is called wood duck chardonnay. it's available at walmart. >> of course it is. >> i can tl you which one i'm ing to like just frothe color of it, a. >> a. >> okay. that was a. and th is b. >> like b. >> i like b, too. i think this one -- i was wrong. this one i thi is "duck dynay." >> ihink b is "duck dynasty." whats the answer? >> b is "duck dynast

the vegan food relief team had matching baseball caps, the scientology is favored identical orange panchos. no matter what their members were every good agenda was always the same. they clear rubble, said a few prayers, took a lot of pictures and laughter. if their shirts were not brazen enough their conversations were. on one of my many fights back from new york i was joined by a bunch of firefighters. after the baggage fell, it is called for a third time, the firemen started to get restless. the group leader admonishes them i told you guys it is like a fourth world country. you have got to be patient. there were several haitians who understood perfectly well. a few weeks later i was on a field mission in a lazy seaside town three hours from port-au-prince. two vacationing american teenagers struck up conversations with me. the best part of their trip had been the orphanage and playing with the children. the orphanage, they sat on hammocks drinking the local beer. for them going and giving out candy to kids hadn't just felt normal like handing out appellates to goats and a petting zoo. it

defense, forced to explain why he missed suri's first day of schools, admitting katie left over scientology. inside the heated interrogation, in his $50 million lawsuit against the tabloids. >>> new video, john edwards's out with his new girlfriend, who she is and why he kicked his baby mama, rielle hunter, to the curb. >>> the curvy bikini girl who recorded a sleeping bieber and her x-rated secret reveal. >

. >>> leah remini versus scientology today. >> have there been repercussions? >> well, i don't get to see my godkids. >>> jennifer lawrence in a see-through gown someone else already wore. renee's inside the "catc

the past couple of years, trying to rebuild his career after the falling out of katie holmes, the scientology, remember him jumping on the couch on oprah's set. he's been trying to rebuild his career when we get word of some back .forth discussions with lawyers in a sealed court case. remember, he was furious about being defamed by "in touch" magazine and eye life & style" magazine because they said he was basically ignoring his daughter. so he went after them with this $50 million defamation lawsuit. now we're get something startling conversations that came out of those meetings. >> apparently the "top gun" actor is saying he was respond to go a lawyer's question when he was comparing the extended time away from his daughter, suri, with a soldier in afghanistan. that's what it feels like, cruise responded. now his attorney is coming back and saying the assertion that tom cruise likened maybicing a movie to being in war in afghanistan is a gross distortion of the record. lawyer burt fields e-mailed the statement was tom said laughingly is that sometimes that's what it feels like. oh, so laugh

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is it scientology? i mean, there's a lot of things that would be affected in this law.re act one way or the other and it really shouldn't be. women's reproductive rights, women's contraception, this is not something that should be discussed. it's not something that needs to be discussed over an interview, a job interview, oh, will you require contraception? that's just not going to fly. >> right. >> justice antonin scalia wrote an opinion back in 1990 a case about two native american employees fired for smoking pei peyote. we've never held that an individual's religious belief excuses him from compliance of an otherwise valid law. this parallel here. does that give you the hope that he may rule against this? >> no. because we're talking about antonin scalia and the key vote here is anthony kennedy and we owtually really don't know h he will rule on this. he's actually very conservative on reproductive rights. i think susan is right about this doesn't need to be a question on a job interview, are you on birth control, that's not something that women should have to discus

scientology is back in the spotlight.e said -- >> he' suing the for $50 million, moneye doesn't need. again, when it sikes that chord in you where you live, your pride is, ego, repation d i guess that's it. he jus says, i'm a good father and this is -- yeah. like i told you, sue when it' about your childr, not you. >> we have to talk about these wines because how can we not? we're gog to have a wine drinkoff, okay? there are tw wines on our table. one is from "duck dynasty" and one is from downing ton abby, okay? >> bh of them in the wine business. >> we don't knowhich one's which. >> no. the downg ton abby is called blanc white and it' $14.99 and the "duckynasty" is called wood duck shard d na. it's available at walmar >> of urse it is. >> i can tell you which one i'm going like just from the color of it, a. >> a. >> okay. that was a. and this is >> i likeb. >> i likeb, too. i think this one -- i was wrong. thisne i think isduck nasty." >> i think b is "duck dasty." what is the answ? >> b is "duck dynasty." >> oh, mygosh

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