he took it to the board of sclc.reverend lowery was the chairman of the board, and he protested and said, it would be like having two separate authorizations. courtney to -- juanita needs to come on board. my husband said, i'm not going to have any fight over my wife. he dropped it. when reverend lowery became president of sclc, he gave it to his wife. that is how sclc women was formed. it is a separate organization. it couldn't be a separate organization with juanita abernathy chairing it with ralph abernathy as president. that is the truth from here to heaven. >> we have one less question. >> [indiscernible] >> they were in illinois for the most part, and octavia was a very nice person and a very active person until she died. she was a very wonderful wonderful woman, and very, very assertive, but you would never know it. because of her quiet spirit -- people try to ignore you if you are not local, but because of her quiet spirit, a lot of times, people don't know who you are. jean young was very active. jean had a

king founded sclc. he is board of directors and past error organization to condemn him over his stance on the vietnam war. his organization writes the resolution to condemn him. he said who are they trying to come after me? he said i'm signing the checks around here. i would have lauded as dr. king very sure pink slip goodbye and don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you. what dr. king was so loving and so kind he went to adam's house for dinner. his organization is voting to condemn him and he still has the same folks on the board and having dinner with them to try to understand why they feel this way. it's called radical empathy. i'm not quite there yet. it's called radical empathy. everyone was against him. on top of all that he feels the death angel hovering in his face every day. he knows there's a bullet out there with his name on it in these telling everybody in a circle he knows his time is limited and he knows that time is going to come is coming soon. i want to hear it because t

king founded sclc. he is board of directors and past error organization to condemn him over his stance on the vietnam war. his organization writes the resolution to condemn him. he said who are they trying to come after me? he said i'm signing the checks around here. i would have lauded as dr. king very sure pink slip goodbye and don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you. what dr. king was so loving and so kind he went to adam's house for dinner. his organization is voting to condemn him and he still has the same folks on the board and having dinner with them to try to understand why they feel this way. it's called radical empathy. i'm not quite there yet. it's called radical empathy. everyone was against him. on top of all that he feels the death angel hovering in his face every day. he knows there's a bullet out there with his name on it in these telling everybody in a circle he knows his time is limited and he knows that time is going to come is coming soon. i want to hear it because t

caller: i got involved in birmingham, working with the sclc and electric company was trying to turn off power for the poor and indigent people for the hot times of the summer and cold times of the winter. we got a thing so that you could donate money to that cause to help these people. that is when i first got involved. host: thank you for sharing your situation in your opinion. rodney is an independent. welcome. caller: in my opinion, wall street definitely had the best year. as they say the numbers don't lie. as regards to who had the worst year, i will have to piggyback off the last caller and say the american public. because the people who participated in the last election, it's almost depressing, we need the public to take part in the election. for any politician to move forward, you cannot say to you have a mandate will only one third of the people participate. those of you the best and worst. wall street is having a blast. us, the american people? we have it worse. host: tim, alabama. go ahead, sir. who had the best and worst year and why. caller: i think that president obama had