growth so there's still a lot to be lower in scotland than the u.k. average but those those figures are going to be the supplement ok gentlemen i'm going to jump in one of the reasons why so many gentlemen let me jump in here david i guess is the interlopers here ok this is look like these two people should be together because look at all of the different the. well despite some and some important differences they have what's sort of sad for me as an outsider is is how how much they have been in common when we heard. professor bane talk about what's what's so great about being part of the united kingdom he talks about the b.b.c. and the welfare state doesn't even mention the great history of great britain as the country that spread freedom in so many places in the world and including saving civilization from hitler both of them are talking about the welfare state and what i think they've both failed to realise and they're there are reasonable the they're good representatives of the labor party and of the scottish national party which are both more or l

for glasgow north east and shadow minister for scotland or a gentleman cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want but first i want to go to david in denver as a constitutionally legally david what kind of case does scotland have to become a sovereign state to have to express its national determination well they have the same right that people everywhere in the world do which is the the right to rule themselves so if the people of scotland vote in a fair referendum for independence then then that would be their right just as the people of ireland with somewhat more trouble were eventually recognised as independent and the people of taiwan wife wise have the same rights of self-determination everyone in the world has the right of self-determination i mean that doesn't mean they gave it doesn't mean they p.s.k. doesn't mean they get myself from a nation that doesn't mean they get self-determination does it. well the nice thing is if you're part of the united kingdom which is a. democratic nation with freedom of the press and lots of tolerance for political diss

assessed that england would invade scotland if and when the looks like it's a matter of time when scotland has a referendum in two thousand and fourteen to have independence what is your attitude towards that would it be a viable state is it legal is it the right thing to do. any state can survive the question is how you prosper best and my belief is we do that better within the united kingdom there are clear benefits of being part of the united kingdom's financial system provides we know who's going to regulate the banks we have a currency which is stable we have provisions for public spending which are democratic i think there are enormous disadvantages in breaking some of those institutions up just to reform them to create a new currency union which apparently is the policy of the s.n.p. but i think we also share so much history we share welfare state yesterday m.p.'s from across the united kingdom were opposing government cuts to disability benefits to benefits for cancer patients we share the b b c we we have a great influence in the world or pearman and membership of the un security

achieves independence will you allow the people of scotland to vote on whether to stay in the european union and ask our labor party fred why not let the people of scotland vote on that and why not let the people of the united kingdom as a whole vote on that why should laws be made in brussels that apply to people in the united kingdom or in scotland if it's independent when the people of scotland in the united kingdom have never consented to surrender their sovereignty to a bunch of bureaucrats in brussels ok i can if you want to go you want to answer one of those questions or both is a completely separate to be i mean some of the things that have been mentioned here are complete annoyances in l.a. to police i've been in politics for three years six to view the sixteen and i was in the late to do it was in of and i've never had a single person come to me ask me for a lot to beating forward you seem to think i should be a focus of a political party i joined the s.n.p. because i want to go on to an equal nation among all of the c.n.a. to nations on an equal police and the european union

vote on that why should laws be made in brussels that apply to people in the united kingdom or in scotland if it's independent when the people of scotland in the united kingdom have never consented to surrender their sovereignty to a bunch of bureaucrats in brussels ok i can if you want to go you want to answer one of those questions or both is a completely separate deby i mean some of the things that have been mentioned here are complete annoyance assimulate to please i've been in politics thirty three years six to sixteen of those in the late to do it resent of never had a single person come to me ask me for a lot to beating forwardness seems to think i should be a focus of a political party i joined the s.n.p. because i want to go on to an equal nation among all of them to see the united nations on an equal police and european union in terms of related health boards were brought in a couple years ago i don't know where the professor's been and i don't know if he's keeping in touch but talking about central planning. no political party in the uki is in favor of central planning as he put

in europe somehow you know independent france notably did not send troops to iraq and independent scotland if we'd been in power would not have done so that's real independence not having nuclear weapons on your soil the decision not to have them is real independence having control over taxation your social security system pain sions you know that is independence of having a role in the world i mean do you see the silly seriously think we are going to suggest or have some early to police commissioners of more gold and give our. people who is this guy go on religion and william william i view it in a way to william here what about it what is the reverse direction here is when you know themselves are not so wound up about this issue i mean obviously the scots are but there's a lot of difference but it's not an issue that you have fire in your belly about or maybe i'm wrong ok i mean the average englishman is not overly worried about scotland staying in the united kingdom. i think there is a sense in england of more particular english identity when i attended a really interesting discussion w

it is hard for david cameron to campaign in scotland. his party is unpopular with voters. the conservatives have only one of the 59 mps elected in scotland. >> the prime minister was quite careful to indicate he did not expect to lead the campaign. the truth is the conservative labour party will have to come together in a joint campaign if it is going to be as effective as it should be. >> pro-union parties will be wondering if more evolved power later will be attractive enough to win out independence. >> rupert murdoch has arrived in london to take part in the latest crisis involving his newspapers. he is expected to address the newspaper later this friday. 10 senior staff have been arrested in connection with alleged corrupt payments to public officials. those followed the closure of britain's biggest selling newspaper and not "the news of the world" in the wake of the phone hacking scandal. a british student was accused of molesting a malaysian student. he had his jaw broken into places and his bicycle stolen, of some who which was posted on -- which was filmed and put

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. >> scotland is a wealthy country.nyone who thinks otherwise are wrong. >> in an era, anti-capitalist protested against the prime minister's visit. david cameron sought to add a bit of passion of his own to the debate. >> i believe in the united kingdom. i am not a unionist, head, heart, and sold. >> then the prime minister called to see them and wants to take over his responsibilities in scotland, the nationalist senator alex salmon. >> what could be more frustrating than for someone to say that they will offer scott was something else and then not said what it is? -- offer scotland something else and then not say what it is? >> yes or no to independence? eric semin is key on two questions. -- eric semin is key onto questions. it is hard for david cameron to campaign in scotland. he is not only of popular amongst anti-campus protesters, but his party is unpopular with voters. aly one of the 59 mp's elected in scotland. >> i think he was quite careful. he did not expect to leave the campaign. the truth is that the cons

of course, scotland must make its choice. we hope to scotland will choose to remain in this partnership that has done so well for the last 300 years. >> thank you, mr. speaker. does the prime minister agree that the elected mayor -- [inaudible] him and. >> i support having elected mayors and a great cities. obvious it will be for the cities themselves to choose but i'm hugely encouraged by what has happened in liverpool recently. we will be having these referenda and people in bristol will have their chance to make that choice. at the same time what people haven't entirely noticed is the government is going to huge devolution to cities in terms of the powers and the money that were prepared to offer them so they can build their own futures but if you think of how bristol leads manchester, liverpool, has a great cities actually build themselves up in the first place, it wasn't order and instruction by london that goes to great city figures that did it for them. >> on tuesday the education secretary took the decision, having a

of course, scotland must make its choice, but we hope that scotland would choose to remain part of this partnership that has done so well for 300 years. >> thank you, mr. speaker. will the prime minister a great that there is a great opportunity for those of us in bristol who haven't long campaign for the resurrection of local rail? >> i support having elected mayors and our great cities. obviously, it will be for those cities themselves to choose. bristol will have the chance to make that choice. i think what people and not entirely unnoticed is that they have gone through some devolutioned in terms of the powers and the money that we are prepared to offer them so they can build their own. if you think and how they need manchester, liverpool, how these great cities actually build themselves up in the fourth place, it was the great city figures that did it for them. >> on tuesday, the education secretary said the prime minister's decision to set up the leveson inquiry was having a chilling effect on the freedom of expression. >> it was a decision fully supported by the entire government

he built the royal bank of scotland into one of the world's largest banks. all of that changed when the bank crashed and he was forced out in october, 2008. >> i give an apology for all of the distrust that had been caused. >> the apology was not enough for those who demanded he should pay a higher price. >> fred goodwin will get a 650,000 pound pension for life. >> he had to make do with a reward for vila of just 340,000 pounds per year. >> we need to change the bonus culture. we need responsibility across the board. >> he will sympathize with him. there are some who worry he is being made a scapegoat. >> fred goodwin has not committed a crime of any kind. no single person or any single bank created the biggest financial recession in modern times. does this mean that any person who has received an honor can be if theyd of that on honor fail? >> he left his edinburgh home for the last time. his place olson be taken here -- place will soon be taken here by mr. fred goodwin. >> you have been watching at newsday from bbc. >> a reminder, in the latest dates to f

and scotland yard suddenly appeared online overnight, it got our attention. call was meantime for investigators only, but the hacker group called anonymous was secretly listening and recording. how did that happen? we asked homeland security correspondent bob orr to find out. >> reporter: it was a routine conference call with a cyberexperts from the f.b.i. and scotland yard discussing strategy for taking down the hacker group anonymous. >> reporter: but the agents didn't know there was a third party on the line, the target of the call, anonymous, was listening in as agents discussed potential suspects. >> reporter: the f.b.i. and scotland yard said no operations were compromised, noting that the call was not classified and not conducted on a secure line. still, the security breach is an embarrassment suring just hours after f.b.i. director robert mueller warned congress of emerging cyber risks. >> i do believe that the cyber threat will equal or surpass the threat from counter-terrorism in the foreseeable future. >> reporter: sources say in this case, anonymo

so saratoga avenue both directions shut down between via monte drive and scotland drive.hat's about a block. as you mentioned 2500 customers in the dark so pg&e are on scene working to restore power. unfortunately they don't have an estimated time when they are going to get that power restored. there are traffic lights out in the area, as well. so of course treat those intersections as a four-way stop. between trying to send chopper 5 five to the scene for the latest from the site. elsewhere guadalupe parkway is slow in the northbound lanes. an accident between 2 0. extra heavy a lot of brake lights, as well. at the bay bridge toll plaza metering lights are on since before 6:30 so we are back up for at least a 10- to 15-minute wait. that's traffic. back to you. >> thank you. >>> new this morning, fire crews working in union city after some sort of structure fire apparently commercial area of union city started around 5 a.m. this is at western and pacific. we don't know exact his what caused this fire but there are some unconfirmed reports that those flames had may have st

in scotland a man is arrested outside the hotel where british prime minister david cameron gave a speech opposing scottish independence. and in germany, men known as bell shakers ring in the carnival season. hot shots, pictures coming in from around the world. >>> now we all have our favorite to die for foods but one restaurant is giving new meaning for that concept. here's our jeanne moos. >> reporter: irony at an eatery in las vegas. apparent heart attack at a place called the heart attack grill. >> one of the nurses came back to me and said, you know, dr. john, we've got a patient who's in trouble. >> reporter: but dr. john isn't really a doctor. he's just the owner wielding a stethoscope. and the nurses are just pate rests dressed up like nurses. so all they could do was call

simon, i know you're in scotland.will be lots of speculation, and we touched on this, about the reasons why whitney's life may have ended in such a gruesome manner. but let's just focus on her talent for a moment. what do you think will be her legacy and inspiration to the next generation? >> well, look, there's so many things you can talk about, about why she was so incredible. i was thinking about it while we were taking that break, because right at the moment, pop music you can argue as being dominated by female pop singers, bike beyonce, like rihanna, katy perry, obviously adele. but whitney and mariah, they were the trailblazers. they were able to prove that a solo female artist could literally dominate pop music, which mariah did and whitney did for most of her career. and importantly, even though she was absolutely stunning when she was at the height of her career, you always remember whitney for one thing and one thing only, the voice. it was so distinct, so incredible. and that's what she's going to leave beh

growth you know there's been a lot of want to be lower in scotland than the u.k. average those figures are going to be meant ok gentlemen i'm going to be one of the reasons why so many gentlemen let me jump in here david i guess is the interlopers here ok this would look like these two people should be together in all of the different the. filing in this news block russians make up nearly thirty percent of latvia's population and a referendum is being held with fishley recognise their native language in the baltic state latvia's laws prevent the official use of any language other than a lot of policy has prevented russian speakers from finding work and resulted in the closure of several russian schools over the last decade artie's alexei airships he explains why the vote could be a step towards restoring basic political rights. this professor from a lot of wants everyone in his country to have equal rights that's why he had no second thoughts when the initiative of a referendum to make russian the country second state language came. from the can't accept the polic

is also marked by preparations for a referendum on scotland's independence and the next hour peter lavelleand gets to be what happens if the people say yes to separation is coming away and cross talk. well look at the figures and i'm sure you i'm sure the viewers will be able to judge the figures from themselves they're publicly available but let's let's look at this issue the last five years it does mean that anyone makes up plus the u.k. only once in the last five years of an economic growth you know there's to be look i want to be lower in scotland than the u.k. average. those loose figures are going to be so mint ok gentlemen i'm going to put one of the reasons why so many gentlemen let me jump in here david i guess is the interlopers here ok this it looks like these two people should be together look at all of the different the. filing in this news block russians make up nearly thirty percent of latvia's population and a referendum is being held with fishley recognise their native language in the baltic state latvia's laws prevent the official use of any language other than a lot of t

grew so there's been a lot of the risk will be lower in scotland but in the u.k. average those those figures are going to be legitimate ok gentlemen i'm going to be reasons why gentlemen let me jump in here david i guess who's going to see interest here ok this would look like these two people should be together look at all of the differences. i'll be back with the headlines at half past the hour but next let's get the latest from daniel at the business desk. welcome to business russia's gazprom has a knowledge that it temporarily reduced gas supplies to european customers at the end of last week deliveries to some countries were cut by ten percent this is due to high demand in russia called well unusually cold weather here and she joins there is now made up the shortfall in supply to europe and is pushing production to the maximum last week of just the month jumped twenty five percent. in a position to meet hundred percent of the inquiries about the first week of february it was another job of the do you want thing to but it was a previous. plus fifty percent nor

>>> what was supposed to be a private call between the fbi and scotland yard about internet security, 16 1/2 minutes of the conversation ended up posted online by the hacking group called anonymous. bob ore explains how it happened. >> reporter: it was a routine conference call, with cyber experts from the fbi and scotland yard, discussing strategy for taking down the hacker group, anonymous. but the agents didn't know there was a third party on the line. the target of the call, anonymous, was listening in as agents discussed potential suspects. >> -- subject of west midlands police. >> did he indicate who he was working with? >> reporter: the fbi and scotland yard said no operations were compromised, noting it was not classified and not conduct order a secure line. still, the security breach is an embarrassment, surfacing just hours after the fbi director muller warned congress of emerging cyber risks. >> i do believe the cyber threat will equal or surpass counterterrorism in the future. >> reporter: sources say in this case, anonymous got lucky after one of the investigators was slo

transportation stocks slipped, disgraced former royal bank of scotland ceo fred goodwin stripped of the knighthood after leading the bank to near collapse during the financial crisis. >> it appears siri, the virtual voice of the iphone 4 s doesn't understand scottish brogue. when asked how is the weather, they hear how is the weather on labor day. i guess the folks in scotland will hope iphone 5 will speak scottish. >> another upset in college basketball. the overkill, craziness and cliche, media day. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. plip pl bl bl what a bargain! [ female announcer ] sometimes a good deal turns out to be not such a good deal. but new bounty gives you value you can see. in this lab demo, one sheet of new bounty leaves this surface cleaner than two sheets of the leading ordinary brand. so you can clean this mess with half as many sheets. bounty has trap and lock technology to soak up big spills and lock them in. why use more when you can use less? bring it with new bounty. [ sighs ] i can't wait till morning. wait! it's morning in china! ♪ [ male announcer ] it's sw

now our scotland correspondent was there. >> it is a festival of fire in britain's most northerly aisles. a thousand geysers dressed in costume parade. and then lighting up the night. this is a celebration of the ancestry but this time of year the days are short oovend dark and -- >> everybody getting together. good time. everybody -- >> it is a distinctive festival and spectacular. thousands come to watch what has been described as the northern mardi gras. >> it's the first one i've been to and i love it. on the scale of the fire and everyone dressed up. >> it just brings everyone out and together. >> it takes months of planning. there's a boat to be built, costumes to be signed and they have to be built to cope with the shetland wind. and although the celebrations are a vicktorian invention, it's closer to norway than the other plays and -- >> the heritage going back to 1469 when we became scottish before that, we were very much a part of the viking 'em pifere and this reflects the dialect and our first names and our links with scanned naveya. >> stronger voice and of stam in a it take

scotland yard and a number of misagencies. one of the recipients forwarded it to a private e-mail address. and opened it on an outside computer. that police officials e-mail address had been previously hacked by unanimous. with the phone number and password, unanimous simply dialed in to the conference. now unanimous is taking a bit of a victory lap after releasing the fbi call, hacker shut down police websites in boston and salt lake city and the justice minister site in greece. cbs news, washington. >>> those of you who have been here a while know the bay area has been the center of political and social activism for decades. of all the protests we have seen, one in particular stands out. it involves a man named brian wilson. whether you agree with his politics or not, one day 25 years ago made him a living legend. >> the antiwar protesters call it sacred ground. >> i only know this from my friends tell me. i don't have any memory of what happened for four or five days. including an hour or two before i got hit. >> it was sep

>he said, sorry, we were going to scotland. they said, you're actually in wales.always more fun than exciting. he once told me a b one that puts itet on three times in a row and -- when it put a bet on it three times in a row, and i won twice. he said, you're not a gambler. he liked losing. it stimulated him. in men he had no money and he had to do more work. once he was earning a lot of money for his paintings, he would take two months' time to gamble away. then he would not have time to work. it was counterproductive. >> he seems to have been extremely single-minded. did he have a sort of inner voice telling him this is the thing to do or was he susceptible to critics? >> he knew how he wanted it to be. when i first used to sit with him, he was more frustrated. he used to stab himself with a paintbrush sometimes. >> stabbed himself? >> it not drawing blood, but you know. there was a feeling of tension and frustration, which , eased off over the years. he became more patient. he was less frustrated as he got older. ♪ >> he loved to read the papers. he bought ever

is also marked by preparations for a referendum on scotland's independence coming up in two hours time on r t peter the bell and his guest debate what happens if people say yes to separation that's in cross talk. well look at the figures and i'm sure you i'm sure the viewers will be able to judge the figures from themselves are publicly available but let's let's look at this issue the last four years it was when it was weeks of course the u.k. only once in the last five years been an economic growth you know there's a lot of want to be lower in scotland than the u.k. average those those figures are going to be examined ok gentlemen i'm going to be one of the reasons why so many gentlemen let me jump in here david i guess is we're out of the interlopers here ok this is look like these two people should be together look at all of the differences. that russians make up near the thirty percent of lot of us population and a referendum is being held to recognise their native language officially in the baltic state lottery as language policy prevents the official use of any language other tha

. >>> secret communications between scotland yard and the fbi? yes, they are hacked.hey famous law enforcement nerve centers be so vulnerable? we want to welcome our viewers in from the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> here in the united states, a group dedicated to saving women's lives is now scrambling to save its representation. officials decided they couldn't afford the fallout from the decision to cut funds to planned parenthood. lisa sylvester is looking into the group's dramatic reversal. what happened? >> it was a public relations nightmare for an organization that's been known for the good works in the fight against breast cancer. in the end we saw this stunning reversal of the foundation say it will continue to give money to planned parenthood after all. >> that cast doubt upon our commitment. we have been distressed at the presumption that the changes made to our funding criteria were done for political reasons the komen foundation best known for the pink ribbons and 5k walks was under fire to the gra

back off or we will end up like british -- the royal bank of scotland says it could end up like the failed british car maker. this is" "gmt from bbc world news. these are the top headlines. more than 70 countries demand a ceasefire in syria and access for aid when they are meeting in tunis today. a battle for the top job in australian politics, australia's former prime minister kevin rudd challenges the current leader julia gillard as head of the labour party. now let's get the latest big but -- business news from juliet foster. we have this deep 20 meeting, an important one. anything significant likely to emerge? >> it is difficult to say the one thing that is likely to happen is the eurozone will dominate the agenda -- the agenda. wanting china and japan to put more money into the european stability fund, but if you talk to countries like china they will say europe needs to do more to get a grip of the problem. but most of their reserves are denominated in euros. donor states will say we will give you something, but we want something back in return, which is likely to be influenced, perh

the favorite is from scotland. inquiry into media ethics has been hearing from the formaer wife heather mills who said she did not authorize per husband to listen to her voice mails. she has accused mayor journalists of hacking into voice messages, which the paper denies. >>> you are watching "newsday" on the bbc. still to come, south africa's bid to beat the recession, president jacob zuma's plans to build a structure and boost jobs. >> and english lottery winners rethinking their plans for the future. >>> some of the stories making headlines around the world. in france, the european union flag flying over athens. the paper looks at the austerity. the dubai based gulf news talks about the arab league recognizing the syrian national council as the representative of the country's people. tax breaks for hiring help, the times says the british prime minister. -- david cameron wants to copy the swedish plan for domestic cuts as a way of increasing the economy and stamping out cash in hand black market for hired help. a