. >> seth: she's like, couthie, you know, like those guys in scotland who are like -- [ growls ] >> no okay. >> no, she'd run. [ light laughter ] but she -- my last dog -- my last dog, honey, i did have to get her -- 'cause she was nuts when i first got her. i maen, really nuts. and i had to get a trainer to come. so i remember, some of the things i remembered from that trainer with lala. but there was one time when the trainer said, "when she freaks out," you know, she would get a bit sort agitated. and i had to lie on top of her like this and hold her paws down like that. and she's going -- [ snarling ] [ light laughter ] and then she would eventually -- you would hear, she would go -- [ sighs ] and then you'd know that was over. you could let her go. and i just had do that. and so, i had to overpower her. you know? you've got to give her the psychological messages. >> seth: by the way, that's also riding a motorcycle. [ laughter ] >> it is, actually. >> seth: and then after we're done, i put her on the back of my motorcycle. >> that's right. so yeah, you have to give her these -- an