scott alice, who actually is going to be on right next after you, about that idea, here's what he saide spoke, watch this. >> contact tracing is an important tool for public health pandemic, but not now, not in this stage, not when millions and millions of people already have the virus. it's sort of a completely illogical use of this very important tool. right now, it's simply illogical and impossible to do contact tracing. >> martha: what do you say to that? >> he's a doctor, i'm not, but what i understand is that the more data we have and the ability to understand where there's a resurgence of the virus, not so much what's already happened, but about understanding what comes next, and so if we are able to talk to people to voluntarily provide is information about their contacts, then we are going to be able to figure out what the trends are and analyze that information. you know, if the doctor wants to come on up to me, give him my information, i'm happy to talk to him. >> martha: okay. presidential election, you said, you know, you think you won't run unless something crazy happens,