this is what makes -- this is what makes scott armstrong wonder where could this information have come from? so this will, i think, a combination of things, there is sort of a confluence in watergate constantly, resulting in the watergate committee uncovering the taping system. here is a recap of that in a summary form being recalled -- >> can i read an ordinance. i was a systems analyst and i made an organization chart of the white house and the question was, here is nixon and here is dean. we already knew from john's testimony that john didn't have notes. so there wasn't paper documentation. so we had to figure out who else would know. so we made a satellite chart of all of the people that were in touch with nixon and all of the people in touch with dean. and in the middle of this, literally, if -- hear is dean up here and you look at this flow chart of where information flowed and there was the office of the counsel to the president and there was this guy who controlled everything in and out of the -- the president's office named alexander budderfield. >> once you get alex in there,

you made two calls to scott armstrong. so he is really -- if there's any hero worship to be done about the revelation of the tapes, i can swear to you i never would have -- you know i didn't volunteer. i had almost escaped because i was leaving the day after the testimony to go to the soviet union for almost three weeks. you are the guy. you should be sitting -- >> but i didn't know. and people on the committee were simply asking -- and the term was the satellite witnesses who will either verify or refute what dean said. and i said one of our sources had said there's a guy named butterfield who was in charge of internal security, which in a way you were. you had liaison with the secret service. you did lots of those security functions. and i went to your house one night and knocked on your door. no one came to the door. but somebody was at the drapes peeking through. i don't know if it was you or charlotte or -- >> no. >> -- one of the kids or something. i told him, you have security. so they called you. >> bob, let me go