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scott atlas joins me now. dr. w, there's a lot of talk about people who ignore science and people who respect science and i think, you know, whenever you go to the doctor about something serious you want to get several opinions but apparently your opinion is not welcome in some places. what is your reaction to that? >> thanks for having me. it's a great honor to be asked by the president to work with him and his team on the most important crisis relay that the country has faced, and probably 100 years not counting a world war. i'm pretty comfortable with my cv. let been at the highest levels of academic medicine for 25 years and combining my medical science, knowledge, expertise and critical thinking with my years in health policy i think is hoping to add something to what is really a great team. i think i feel most comfortable with it here because people are very data-driven and it's a very focused strategy, a very thoughtful and tailored strategy on the key things of the policy should be focused on which is prote

scott atlas. plus a story exclusive with an illinois democrat taking action to abolish history classes in schools. the first director, great of you to be here tonight. so we hear a lot about your campaign trying to turn things around. 92 days is a long time for election years, not a long time for politico, writing today about this dwindling window of time to turn things around so is it too late for donald trump's campaign? >> absolutely not. president trump is on the rise and searching and pulling. as a president at a 51% approval rating which is actually seven points higher than where former president barack obama was at this same point in 2012. and let's look at the enthusiasm gap that exists. is real and a real problem for joe biden. president trump supporter's or 70% more enthusiastic to go out and vote for him than joe biden. makes sense. president trump has delivered for the american people. joe biden's supporters are not excited to be out there. he's going to have a hard time entering out m

sanjay, i want to talk to you about scott atlas who is a radiologist, he's not an epidemiologist as far as i understand. first, sanjay, even though dr. fauci is calling a human vaccine trial plan d, how would that actually work? we talked about this before but just a reminder to our viewers. >> yeah, so typically what happens after you go through the first couple phases of a trail then there is face three which typically you get a lot of people, thousands of people and they either get the vaccine or a p placebo and follow them to see how they do. it requires thousands and thousands of people and the people who receive the vaccine may also not necessarily get exposed to the virus so you don't know did they not get the infection because of the vaccine or because they weren't exposed? with the human challenge trial, people are also getting the vaccine and then they are intentionally exposed. these are volunteers intentionally exposed to a consistent measurable strain of the virus. so you know for sure they have been exposed, and you can tell pretty quickly then is the vaccine working or no

scott atlas who is a neuroradiologists, probably hasn't done patient care and has no training in ep heey recommend that we should do social distancing and masks and the like. i think the candor is surprising but the sentiment is not. i think they've been thinking this, at least the president and vice president pence has been for a long time. >> the coronavirus model is 170,000 deaths by december and they pointed out tens of thousands lives could be saved if the percentage of people wearing masks and social distancing increased. >> we could save 90,000 american lives if 95% of people wore masks by the end of the year. that is such a huge number of american lives that could be saved and the fact that this president will not issue a mask mandate just speaks to the people that he's listening to, folks like scott atlas instead of dr. fauci. >> do you think majority of americans have accepted this idea of that we are in the middle of a pandemic or do you think the numbers have now just washed over people and this is gone on so long and people are so sick of it, there is this mindset of let's

this is scott atlas. do you know that?king with us and will be working with us on the coronavirus. and he has many great ideas and he thinks what we've done is really good and we'll take it to a new level. >> i'm an adviser, asked by the president to advise him and it's an obvious that the answer is yes, sir and any way to help i will do so. >> dr. scott atlas, a trained medical doctor who attended the university of chicago school of medicine, a fellow at stanford, a long-time adviser to republicans and a frequent on fox news praised by the likes of rush limbaugh as countering fauci and now credentials may sing but the anti-science blatherring blows. here he is on fox talking about why football needs to return. >> i think we have to get a grip here. look at the science. understand who we're talking about here. there's not a lot of obese diabetic 78-year-olds playing football. >> so let's actually look at the science because experts who are beholden to science and not satellites of the president will tell you that data on y

. >> then after reintroducing his new adviser the fox news contributor scott atlas, trump was back on the attack against kamala harris. >> i didn't watch. i saw just a moment of him speaking, a moment of her speaking. and it was enough. look, he made a choice. he picked her. i watched her. i watched her poll numbers go boom, boom, boom, boom down to almost nothing and she left angry. she left mad. there was nobody more insulting to biden than she was and now she's running to be vice president saying how wonderful he is. i thought it was a very unusual pick because she said such bad things. i think that's probably one of the reasons she was a terrible candidate and was forced to leave the race is because she got her facts wrong. she's very bad on facts. we've done the best job of any country in the world, and that includes making ventilators that nobody else could have done. when you look at the job we've done compared to others, we've done a great job. >> earlier in the day using language and rhetoric, let's face it straight out of another time, he said this on twitter, quote, the sub

scott atlas, the president has added to his team. there are a lot of questions about the things that he has been saying about this virus. the accuracy of what he's been saying and the fact that he's now front and center, not just in the president's ear, but front and center. >> yeah. it's really -- it's quite remarkable and i have talked to sources about this as well. it's very interesting. so dr. scott atlas, he's a neuroradiologist out of stanford. he is now -- he attended a coronavirus task force meeting according to sources i have talked to a couple of days ago. he is the person -- again, according to these sources who is in the oval office with the president now instead of ambassador birx and he is someone who has been a proponent of a lot of things that flies in the face of what we have heard from task force members. the most substantial of which is this idea of let's basically go after herd immunity. which is something that dr. atlas is sort of starting to put out there and float as an idea and even advocating for. and i think

scott atlas, a radiologist. he doesn't have a background in infectious disease disease. >> you don't eradicate a virus by locking down. i mean, that's just a complete misconception. i think we have to get a grip here, look at the science, understand who we're talking about here. there's not a lot of bees diabetic 78-year-olds playing football. this is a temporary issue. pandemics don't last for years and years. i'm sorry, but that just never happened. >> this is vastly different than what we're hearing from the experts on the white house coronavirus task force like dr. fauci or dr. birx. >> right. so he's wrong on a number of issues. first of all, let's look at the pandemic that the president often refers to, the 1918 pandemic. if you read the history of that, it wasn't really the 1918 pandemic. it was really the 1918 through 1920 pandemic. so, pandemics do last years. number two, dr. atlas has been an advocate for herd immunity, in other words, allowing the population to be infected to where then contagion drop

. >> this is scott atlas. do you know that? ott is a very famous man who's also very highly respected, stanford, and he's working with us and will be working with us on the coronavirus, and he has many great ideas. >> none of the actual task force doctors were there at the briefing today, but let's tell you about scott atlas. he's a fellow at the stanford university hoover institution and a fox news regular who has warned of the dire consequences of school closings and shutdowns. it's not clear if atlas is now part of the white house task force. the president also defended his decision to issue one executive order and three memos to try to address the coronavirus crisis and the economic crash in light of the ongoing stalemate in the talks on a new relief bill. he today talked about a prospective executive order he says he's considering to make insurers cover pre-existing conditions in americans even though obamacare already offers such protections. >> as an executive order, it hasn't been done before. >> why do you need, sir, to

scott atlas. and he's reportedly the one pushing this herd immunity strategy, all the while dr. fauci seems to be sidelined. who is atlas and what is he suggesting? >> reporter: dr. scott atlas is a person who came to the white house after the press has seen him in multiple appearances on fox news. he's a doctor with an md behind him nay who has backed up some of the claims that the president and his aides have made, not only when it comes to immunity for a potential coronavirus patient, people who have had coronavirus, but also school openings and college football teams playing this fall. he's really backed up a lot of the president's own notions when it comes to coronavirus and that is the reason he was hired. so it is not surprising that he is inside of the white house and elevated to this role that he's continuing to push for something that he pushed before hand on fox news which was one of herd immunity. other doctors on the task force do not agree where dr. atlas but it is coming at a time when dr. atlas is having more access to the president and more influence on the pres

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sanjay, i want to talk to you about scott atlas, who is a radiologist. he's not, you know, an epidemiologist, as far as i understand. but first, sanjay, even though dr. fauci's calling human challenge vaccine trial, plan d, how would that actually work? we have talked about this before. but -- but just let's remind our viewers. >> yeah. yeah. so typically, what happens after you go through the first couple of phases of a trial. then, there is phase three which, typically, you get lots of people. thousands of people. and they either get the vaccine or a placebo. and you basically follow them and see how they do. the problem is you require thousands and thousands of people and the people who receive the vaccine may also, not necessarily, get exposed to the virus. so you don't know did they not get the infection because of the vaccine? or because they weren't exposed? with the human challenge trial, with the challenge trial, people also get the vaccine. and then, they are intentionally exposed. these are volunteers. intentionally exposed to a consistent, me

what role does scott atlas play and are you comfortable with someone with his views being a close adviser now and part of the team? >> so i've met dr. atlas. i've spent a couple of hours with him. he is a physician and also a health policy person that wasn't brought -- that was brought in by the house. i don't think he's on the task force. he's certainly working with all of us, dr. fauci, dr. birx, and so -- and we continue to get his diverse input when possible. i don't think he said children can't die from the virus. i think we're all pretty clear medically speaking that the rates of severe illness in children are very, very low, and most children who do have the severe illness have an underlying condition. none of us would say, and i'm a pediatrician, i'm in icu, that children can't have an ill effect. but the chances are much lower, much, much lower than adults and certainly much lower than the elderly. so we have to do that risk in context. every year, umm, we have tragic losses of children with influenza. i'm not trying to say this is the same thing. but we know children have a bett

scott atlas. he's formerly a doctor at stanford who has been a proponent of controversial strategies relating to coronavirus. he's now in the room, in the oval office. why? >> yeah, that's a good question. i talked to sources at the white house, and they were sort of -- they were concerned about that. i mean, dr. atlas -- and i don't really know much about him. nobody really seems to. but he is a proponent for something known as herd immunity which many people may not know this term, but basically is this idea of letting people just become infected and something that the many task force members have talked about and said is a terrible idea. now, someone who's a proponent of this is in the oval office with the president talking about i. by the way, people think it's a terrible idea because in order to get to herd immunity, it would take a very long time, four years according to some models. but a lot of people would die. more than a million people would die according to dr. fauci. that's why they'r

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scott atlas the new white house pandemic adviser is distancing himself from the reports that he is a proponent of herd immunity. how troubling though is it to hear these reports of somebody advising the president floating this kind of idea? >> you know, this idea of herd immunity gets thrown around by a lot of people who don't understand infectious disease or pandemics. in order for us to have herd immunity in our country from this virus we're probably talking about hundreds of thousands more americans dying, millions more getting infected. it is an unacceptable outcome and unnecessary. so to me, it is really troubling. it's not the strategy we've used with almost any infectious disease. i don't think it would work here but it would cause enormous suffering and death. >> sounds like we need herd intelligence on all of this. doctor, thank you very much. we appreciate it. >>> president trump is supporting the decision by his director of national intelligence to end in-person briefings for congress on foreign interference in the u.s. election, promising written reports instead. let's go

schools but some health experts are skeptical about the white house's new coronavirus advisor doctor scott atlas a neuro radiologist some with no public health experience. who has advocated for herd immunity now advising the president of the united states herd immunity means 1 million dead americans that's what it would take to get to herd immunity. >>that's not a plan. that's a catastrophe the push to get students back in class comes as the u.s. is averaging nearly 53,000 new cases per day according to johns hopkins university. >>that's an 11% drop from the week before you get to go to school we got open up we've got to open up our schools and open up by businesses. >>and a lot of it has been open but. we can do better. i'm john lawrence reporting. >>still ahead on the kron 00:04am morning news tuition or rent. why some south a sorority sisters are calling out their national leadership for the top choice and they're being forced to me. welcome back everyone and thanks for staying with us the time is for 29, we have a lot to talk about the heat advisory. >>the warming trend and the fog. so there

scott atlas, today appearing with the florida governor, insisting the risks to children are low. >> we are the only nation among our peer nations that's hysterical about opening schools. >> reporter: this as the us reaches a grim milestone, surpassing 6 million cases. some colleges already facing a spike in cases. while cities are cracking down, this pool party near the university of south carolina broken up for mask order violations. tonight, a struggle to keep the virus out of professional tennis, too. the first grand slam event since the pandemic began, the u.s. open, kicking off in new york without fans in the stands. french player benoit paire forced to withdraw, posting on instagram, "i'm for the moment. i have no symptoms. i hesitate to tell what really happens in this fake bubble." players and coaches are sequesters in a bubble at two hotels. the usta telling aby news they are confident in their safety plan and say the infected player was not following protocols. tom? >> eva pilgrim, thank you. >>> we now want to go to that breaking news we mention ldz at the top of the broadca

scott atlas, a radiologist, not an infectious disease specialist, listen to some of the comments. >>that's a complete misconception. look at the science. understand what we're talking about here. a temporary issue. that just the advice from dr. fauci, birx. >> great to have him on call in the e. r., a spine mri. as he mentioned, training, public health or infectious disease and comments that you just played are quite concerning to those of us who do have public health training or my colleagues who are experts in virology and infectious disease. that imply a lack of understanding about how the virus spreads and how to prevent its spread as well as a dismissal of the very real consequences of this disease for younger americans. >> dr. harris, and his words, the lower transmission rates could be related to stay at home orders in the early days of the pandemic. what's your reaction? does it make sense to you? >> it does, wolf. as has always been the case, the objective data and the facts don't lie. you noted one in three children who are hospitalized are ending up in the icu and tragical

scott atlas could say just a couple of words, and we will be covering it in more detail in a little whileif you're interested in watching, we would love to have you. scott, please. >> thank you, mr. president. it's a great honor to be asked to help out any way i can, and the event, i thought, was terrific. i want to thank everyone for participating, and to reiterate the bottom line on this as the president and vice president and secretary devos have said, which is we know that the risk of the disease is extremely low for children, even less than that of seasonal flu. we know that the harms of locking out the children from school are enormous. and we also know, as we all would agree, that educating america's children is right at the top of the list of our nation's priorities. i thank the president and everyone here for acknowledging these truths and to get kids back to school safely. thank you. pres. trump: thank you, scott. that's very good. we will have more from scott in a little while. we're going to meet together, and we've been working with him very closely, all of the task force, al

scott atlas has now joined the white house as a pandemic advisor. he is the former chief of neuroradiology at stanford university medical center and a fellow at the hoover institution. he has no expertise in public health or infectious diseases. dr. atlas -- regarding ongoing tensions between the president and dr. fauci. >>> coming up, the de conventio tomorrow. after the break, a look at the upcoming virtual conventions. how experts say the scaled-back plans will affect the election. >>> president trump asking a pastor in california to deliver the servant for his brother that died last night. >>> people in beirut continue to pick up the pieces after that massive explosion. why some are concerned that relief money will not go where it is needed the most. want restaurants to open? and schools? want the economy to get back on track? you're not alone. and you can help make it happen. stay 6 feet apart. wash your hands. wear a mask every time you leave your home. choose to join the fight against covid-19. do your part. slow the spread. >>> the democrati

scott atlas, a senior fellow at stanford's hoover. plan closely aligned with trump especially when it compares to the top officials dr. anthony fauci and dr. deborah birx who president trump has publicly spoke against when talking about the dangers and kids returning to school. >>> let's switch gears for a moment and get a first look at your forecast with nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning, bill. man, it was muggy yesterday in the new york area. >> and stormy. oh, yeah. you know, we had storms that were lining up right through the mid-atlantic. we had delays there, you know, with all of the production that was going on in wilmington, delaware, over the announcement of kamala harris. thunderstorms were plaguing the region. we have problems once again today. we have more flash flooding concerns. let's get into it. not bad. typically this time of day, the storms are particularly weak and then they'll fire up in the afternoon. that's what's going to happen today. you have norfolk, all the way back to the mtss of north carolina an

. >> this is scott atlas.s a very famous man, who's also very highly respected, stanford, and he's working with us and will be working with us on the coronavirus and he has many great ideas and he thinks what we've done is really good and that we'll take it to a new level. and so, it's great to have scott working along with us. thank you very much. >> cnn's kaitlan collins is joining us now and he's joining trump's team at a time he finds himself increasingly at odds with medical experts in his own administration. >> reporter: he's been informally advising the president for weeks, after he first got a glimpse of him on fox news. and you heard the president listing off his credentials. he's a doctor, of course. and a fellow at stanford. but he is one of the medical experts who has a very close public stance with what the president thinks about covid-19, on reopening schools, national lockdowns, college athletes playing football this fall. and to give you an indication of what the president has been watching bef

this is scott atlas. do you know that? scott is a very famous man, who was also very highly respect did at stanford, and he is working with us, working with us on the coronavirus, and he has many great ideas. he thinks what we have done is really good and that we will take it to a new level. it is great to have scott working along with us. we appreciate it very much. we have had some great discussions. >> to follow-up on that, mr. president, have all the governor signed onto this? pres. trump: we just had a meeting with the governors, and they were very anxious to get money for the people in their states. state, weding on the we have to do, terminate the 25 percent, or we do not have to do that. it depends on the individual state. secretarytructed the of the treasury to move as quickly as he can. who wanted toson ask you to be clear on the incident outside. there is a fairly significant perimeter around the white house. as a concern you at all that someone who was armed was able to get so close that you needed to be removed

. >> i agree with scott atlas and the task force there is limited circumstances where it might make sense to wear and ask if the right type of masks come a real medical mask and you are ad somebody highly vulnerable or you yourself are highly vulnerable in trying to wear properly and take it off properly and never touch the outside and so on and so forth. if you are not in that same gillnet type of circumstance and not be that careful with it, they will be not that much benefit. lots and lots of study show when they start pursing this type of mask and the other type, and news media stories and studies avoid this type of mask for this type of mask, the bottom line is there's not a lot of benefits from these masks other than the specific circumstances by the make sense and you are willing to put an extraordinary amount of caution and never touch it in the be careful in selling. which most people aren't able to do even if they try, frankly. so i think this is a little bit silly to split hairs in terms of what type of mask we should be using. >> raymond: alex, 30 seconds what you make of the

scott atlas, always good to talk to you, sir. thank you so much.i director seeming to mock u.s. attorney, john durham's probe of the russian investigation. >> next, i'm sure there will be in investigation, of the investigation, of the investigation. >> martha: former white house press secretary, sarah huckabee sanders weighs in on that. the secret she says is one to watch tonight. next. ♪ when we started carvana, they told us that selling cars 100% online wouldn't work. but we went to work. building an experience that lets you shop over 17,000 cars from home. creating a coast to coast network to deliver your car as soon as tomorrow. recruiting an army of customer advocates to make your experience incredible. and putting you in control of the whole thing with powerful technology. that's why we've become the nation's fastest growing retailer. because our customers love it. see for yourself, at carvana.com. mom's love that land o' frost premium sliced meats have no by-products. (his voice) "baloney!" (automated voice) has joined the call. (voice from

scott atlas has thought about it. he's a member of the coronavirus task force.nk you for coming on. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: if you could explain the public health utility of wearing a mask home alone on a zoom call. is the virus transmissible through zoom? >> know. by the way, i want to correct you. i've not thought a lot about wea mask while having sex. >> tucker: [laughs] i was trying to do it with a straight face and i couldn't. >> the reality is there a certain date of its very controversial about masks and i think the president said it correctly honestly when he said that in certain settings it's reasonable to wear a mask when you cannot social distance and particularly if you're trying to protect and are in proximity to high-risk individual or you are a high-risk individual. it's a rational policy. i don't want to make fun of people who say these other things, though. the reality is it's stemming from a massive amount of fear bordering on hysteria. this is a real problem because public policy is supposed to be taken into consideration n

. >> the gentleman you know everybody, you know russell, you know -- this is scott atlas. you know that, right? scott is a very famous man, who is also very highly respected. stanford. he's working with us and will be working with us on the coronavirus. and he has many great ideas and he thinks what we've done is really good. and now we'll take it to a new level. and so it's great to have scott working along with us. so we appreciate it very much, scott. thank you very much. we've had some great discussions. >> to follow up, mr. president. have all the governors signed onto this? >> we just had a meeting with the governors, and they were very anxious to get money for the people in their states. and if they -- depending on the state, we have to right to do what we want to do. we can terminate the 25% or we don't have to do that. so we'll see what it is. it depends on the individual state. but a lot of money will be going to a lot of people very quickly. i've instructed the secretary of the treasury to move as quickly as he can. so we'll get it done. yes, please? >> i had a q

scott atlas is not a disease specialist. >> i think we have to get a grip and look at the science. there's not a lot of obese diabetic 78-year-olds playing football. >> compare that to this week's warning from ncaa medical adviser dr. carlos dell rio. >> we have a serious problem. i feel like the titanic and we have hit the iceberg. my advice to colleges and the organizations i've talked to is if you cannot do it safely, you shouldn't do it. >> joining us now, cnn's sports analyst and usa today columnist, christine brennan. good to have you back. it's been a while. >> great to see you, ana. thanks so much. >> what do you make of the total lack of unity right now in the college football world? >> sports, as we've said many times, mirrors our society, and here we go again. this is absolutely college football, and as we are fractured and have communities that are wearing masks and others fighting wearing masks, we're seeing college football play out in that environment. for example, the big ten in the great lake states, the big ten made a decision with deference to science and knowled

president trump's new medical advisor, scott atlas, is pushing herd immunity to fight coronavirus.his is according to "the washington post." sweden is using the model now. here's what happens. you essentially let the entire country go back to normal and keep the most vulnerable, like the elderly, locked down. the virus spreads through the younger, healthier community and hopes people catch the virus, recover and then become immune. top doctors like anthony fauci and former fda commissioner scott gottlieb warn that's a terrible idea. an international researcher and american medical professionals point out this strategy didn't even work in sweden, the examples people are point to as a success story. more than 8,500 people died from coronavirus in sweden which has the about the same population as north carolina. not to mention stockholm officials say by may only about 7% of residents have been exposed to the virus. now, in the united states the cdc says nearly 7,000 people under the age of 50, or 28,000 people under the age of 65 have died from coronavirus. and the long-lasting impact

scott atlas, also said it okay if kids get infected. >> more than 5.2 million people across the country7,000. we have the latest. >> reporter: this morning a grim trend in america. more than 1,000 people dying from coronavirus every day in the past two weeks. although fewer states are reporting increasing cases. 17 states are seeing an increase in hospitalizations. and 21 states, plus d.c. and puerto rico are seeing more daily deaths. this has many schools are struggling with the task of bringing students back. dr. anthony fauci, advising on the best way to reopen. >> you are in a red zone, i think you really better be careful and try to get your county, your city, your state, down to a yellow or green. >> reporter: fauci, interviewed by actor matthew mcconaughey thursday. >> you want to open the bars or you want to open the schools? >> reporter: in florida, tampa area schools forced by the state to open or risk losing federal will funds. for schools that reopened, swift setbacks. at least 2,400 students and staff, quarantined across 6 states. in mesa, arizona, personal protective equip

scott atlas is saying. he's been touting this herd immunity concept.der if you have any concerns about that approach. >> huge concerns. we cannot aim for this concept. so, the idea of herd immunity is when you have a large percent object of the population, 60 to 80% who have saparticular infection, who have recovered from it, who have immunity to it t protects. we don't know how long immunity really lasts. and if we're waiting until 60 to 80% of people have it, we're talking 200 million plus americans getting this and a fatality rate of 1%, that's 2 million americans who will die in this effort to get herd immunity and these are preventible deaths of our loved ones we can just not let happen under our watch. >> and let's talk about what we're seeing in the big picture. the u.s. did hit the 6 million mark today but in the overall trend, we're seeing the average number of cases going down. where are we right now? >> a better place than we were a few weeks ago. but this is not the time to letdown our guard. we know we're seeing a decline of infections in

schools but some health experts are skeptical about the white house's new coronavirus advisor doctor scott atlas a neuro radiologist some with no public health who has advocated for herd immunity now advising the president of the united states herd immunity means 1 million dead americans. >>that's what it would take to get to herd immunity. that's not a plan. that's a catastrophe the push to get students back in class comes as the u.s. is averaging nearly 53,000 new cases per day according to johns hopkins university. that's an 11% drop from the week before we get to go to school we got open up we're going to open up our schools and open up by businesses. >>and a lot of it has been open but. we can do better. i'm john lawrence reporting. >>all right, here's a sample we expect for today going on here ya the upper 90's in the inland valleys by the mid afternoon. >>and once the sun some clouds pretty hot today, how hot 12 let's check in with the expert meteorologist dave spahr standing by day well good morning robin good morning, everybody least beautiful sunshine joining us as we can see from the

scott atlas. on paper dr.nce policy expert, except he's not an expert on infectious diseases. he found him -- we're still debating the efficacy of wearing masks and social distancing, a matter that is closed and settled for most of the rest of the world that has flattened the curve. respecting real medicine, discovery, and academic study as opposed to ignorance are the only things that can prevent that. we spent decades underfunding public education in america. some political leaders are capitalized on that nor political game. pushing people to value personal opinion over fact. morality over science. subjecty over objecty. it is more critical now to uphold scholarship and truexs the but i'm not confident we'll get there under the current administration. even with the help of dr. atlas. joining me now is francis collins, director of the national institutes of health. dr. collins, thank you for the work you do and for the music you play. we enjoyed hearing it. just before the commercial. let's put a few things t

scott atlas not an infectious disease expert pushing the president to embrace a herd immunity strategy. this is happening as dr. fauci the nation's top infectious disease expert is sidelined and cause for concern about a potential coronavirus vaccine, the head of the fda is telling the financial times that an emergency authorization or approval of a vaccine could be considered before phase three trials are over. i want to bring in senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen to break this down with us here. you know, this is serious but also two different things, emergency authorization versus approval of the vaccine. so tell us what it would mean to skip over the parts of a phase three trial. >> right. so what dr. hahn was saying is that we may not -- we may be able to consider getting a vaccine on the market or doing an emergency use authorization even before we finish this trial of 30,000 people. the experts i have been talking to say, yes, technically that's true. really for any vaccine application. they do 30,000 people but they may do fewer checking in on it and see and if the va

you know, this is scott atlas. you know that, right? ott is a very famous man who is also very highly respected, stanford. he is working with us and will be working with us on the coronavirus and he has many great ideas. and he thinks what we've done is really good. we'll take it to a new level. it is great to have scott working along with us. we appreciate it very much, scott. thank you very much. we've had some great discussions. reporter: follow up on that, mr. president, if you don't mind, talking about the states have all the governors signed on to this? president trump: we just had a meeting with the governors and they were very anxious to get money for the people in their states and if they, depending on the state, we have the right to do what we want to do. we can terminate the 25% or we don't have to do. that we'll see what it is. depends on the individual state. but a lot of money will be going to a lot of people very quickly. i've instructed the secretary of the treasury to move as quickly as he can. all right? so we'll get it

scott atlas says infectionst and are declining in hard-hit states, and there is no need to fear, even as more schools reopen. confirmed cases nationwide topped six million today, with 183,000 deaths. a federal appeals court in waington has refused to en the criminal case against michael flynn. the form national security advisor pled guilty to lying about contactsith russia before president trump took office. but the justice departnt had moved to dismiss the case. the appeals court also tosd a congressional lawsuit to make former white house counsel don mcgahn testify. house democrats plan to appeal. in lebanwmakers endorsed diplomat mustapha adib as prime minister-designate today. the largest sunni party, the shi-ite "hezbollah" and christian blocs all backed him,n a rare display of unity. today, adib visited neighborhoods recovering from a devastating beirut port explosion. he promised accountability. >> ( translated ): words fail to describe this horrific scene. we will try as soon as the government is formed to speed up the investigations and to haveve the igation's result given to

scott atlas is here from stanford. he has been working with us for a period of time and i thought it would be great. he was saying things to me the other day, i said it would be great if you tell that to the media. so this is the first time i've shared the platform and it is an honor to do so. scott is truly a, is a brilliant man. he is a wonderful man and he cares about the subject very much. and i would like to ask scott to come up please and say a few words. thank you, scott. >> thank you, mr. president. obviously a great honor to be here and a great honor to serve this president whose really focused on the very important parts of the pandemic and, i'm new here. i'm just sort of getting involved but i want to thank you and the vice president and the entire team, the task force team. all the people who are not very visible really, for working so hard. these people are working 24/7 and it is quite amazing. and i think that today we had a fantastic event that i will just mention on opening the schools because the presi

scott atlas is not alone.p is also getting infectious disease advice from the my pillow guy, mike lindell. lindell gets invited into the oval office where he's helping to push a plant exact as a miracle cure for covid, despite the lack of any evidence that it works. did i say that the medical advi. what's scarier is that he told axios that in the meeting trump basically said the fda should be approving it. joining me is a convention speaker tonight. any thoughts, senator, on the thought that the fda will approve the miracle plant extract from the my pillow guy. i hate to have to ask you that. >> they won't. >> okay. that's good to news. >> that's all i can say, joy. it is just not going to happen. i mean, you know, what's so sad is the desperation of the president to make up for the failed leadership that he's had. if anything is out there that some of his supporters say may work, he latches on to. >> at least it's not bleach, though. we should probably be thankful. the latest coronavirus cases and deaths, 4,4