scott atlas.ow this is important because it's the first time that he is publicly acknowledging that he was at odds with dr. scott atlas who at this point appears to be the closest adviser to the president surrounding the pandemic. he has the president's ear and that much is clear. that's worrisome to public health experts that i spoke to at the cdc that say dr. scott atlas is providing the president with misleading information. that's what dr. robert redfield is saying here and the cdc is responding, not denying that he said this. here's what they had to say in a short statement to us. nbc news is reporting one side of a private phone conversation by the cdc director overheard on a plane from atlanta-hartsfield airport. he was having a private discussion regarding a number of points he made publicly about covid-19. >> earlier this year, dr. scott atlas reportedly promoted a strategy of herd immunity as a strategy for the pandemic. now in september, he has since denied using that strategy or promot

scott atlas. so, you know, there's plenty of disagreement and discussions within the public health community about the right way to handle the pandemic, but dr. atlas holds views that are not within the mainstream. nobody believes in the things that he believes in. so he's not -- he's not a contrarian he's just completely out of the mainstream in his views. his arrival to the white house has meant that these really sensible guidelines that the white house was secretly sharing with states, which states were, by the way, passing out to many of us and saying these look pretty good, don't you think they're right? all of a sudden changed. and i suspect basically what has happened is that dr. atlas and his team are now getting to put in the recommendations, and dr. debbie birx and tony fauci, who really are experts in this their voices seem diminished to me at least in those recommendations. >> why would you tell a state to stop -- a state that where the infection rate is getting worse right now, what is

did you reach out to scott atlas? >> we didid and we updated the artiticle that we reacached outo the white house threeee differet times to give him a chance to comment, ask for an interview. i think was augugust 21, 28, 29, both your r email and phone. there was plentyty of time and plenty of opportununity to commenent. we know from several sources he is p pushing t the strategy andf youu look at the public statement, he advovocated a herd immunity strategy would in an apappearance on fox x we also od in t the article at an event in florida he wasas advocating tens of herd immunity strategy. there was plenty of time to commenent. he did comment after the fact. it is just not true we did not reach out. i think the policies a and his public position speak for themselves. amy: i want to bring gregg gonsalves into this conversation with the yale school of public health. professor, if you can respond to this issue of herd immunity and then go on to all the messages that are being changed right now, particularly talk about

and scott atlas's program would magnify that enormously.other hand, we know that masks slow down the epidemic. we know that social isolation slows it down. and so we have tools in our hands right now that we can use to much greater effectiveness, counter to the advice that the administration is now giving to states, don't close bars, don't insist on masks, that's straight from scott atlas and it's from his boss. he's acting out what his boss wants done. >> okay, william, thank you so much. that sums it up. appreciate it. >> you're welcome. thank you. >>> getting ahead of the president and his possible challenges to election results, how democrats say he might be planning to disrupt the election with 36 days to go. get ready - our most popular battery is now even more powerful. the stronger, lasts-longer energizer max. the stronger, lasts-longer want conservative judges on i'the court.vative, this may make you feel better, but i really don't care. if an opening comes in the last year of president trump's term and the primary process has star

scott atlas. we're following the bombshell "new york times" report exposing the president's long hidden tax returns. a short while ago mr. trump ducked questions about the report that shows he spent years avoiding federal income taxes while piling up huge financial losses and debt. first to boris sanchez. the president wanted to talk about rapid covid-19 tests. he did not want to talk about revelations about taxes and finance. >> that's right, jim. the president dodging reporter's questions about that bombshell story in "the new york times" about his tax returns. also not answering questions about the very public dispute about officials in his own administration. dr. scott atlas on hand for this announcement about testing in the rose garden today. not on hand, dr. anthony fauci and cdc director robert redfield both of whom have made statements contradicting the president's repeated claim that the united states is rounding the curve on coronavirus. notably the president refuting these stories about

scott atlas. sources say cdc director robert redfield has also voiced concerned about atlas. mr. trump dodging questions about a bombshell "new york times" report that said he paid no income taxes in ten out of 15 years starting in 2000 and that he's hundreds of millions of dollars in debt. let's go straight to the white house, and cnn white house correspondent boris sanchez. a major pandemic announcement by the president this evening. >> reporter: that's right, jim. president trump announcing of u.s. plans to manufacture 150 million new rapid covid-19 tests in the coming months. the president is saying the united states is rounding the corner on the virus going against his own health experts including dr. anthony fauci who notably was not in the rose garden for today's announcement. nor was cdc director robert redfield. but dr. scott atlas was. those men have a very public dispute. i tried to ask the president about it. he chose not to answer our questions about that nor about this bombshell repo

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scott atlas there in the briefing room. that's the one member of the coronavirus task force who has often echoed the president's views on this. but as he said and told a reporter in the room, sometimes he thinks he knows better than his own experts. >> as he touts an ambitious time line for vaccines, president trump is arguing that politics isn't taking priority over science when it comes to the federal government's coronavirus response. >> we expect to have enough vaccines for every american by april. >> reporter: cnn has now learned that commercial cdc guidance claiming people without covid-19 symptoms didn't need to get tested wasn't written by the agency's scientists and was posted online without their approval, despite what officials claimed last month. >> all the docs signed off on this before it even got to the task force level. >> reporter: a source telling cnn's sanjay gupta that testing document was sent to the cdc by the department of health and human services and bypassed the cdc's strict scientific review proce

scott atlas. it's not so much that scott atlas has the novel thoughts on coronavirus.that they just reinforce what the president has already wanted to hear about masks, about herd immunity and even about, you know, things like schools and how much kids can transmit the virus. >> well, sanjay, let's talk about that, because today new york city schools the largest in the country reopens while other schools have been open for weeks now. and so how are parents not supposed to feel duped today when they read this was cherry picked information? >> look, it's really worrisome, alisyn. we all had to become amateur epidemiologists to figure out what's best for our kids and it's really hard and now the idea that you can't fully trust the information you're getting on the cdc's website is of grave concern. i mean, i have written a lot about this, trying to look at the data. i think it's important to look at the data in your particular area. i mean, the cdc and the white house coronavirus task force originally did put out criteria in what to look for in your community. i think we

scott atlas, and it dr. atlas argued that maybe we don't need universal social distancing measures.ome groups of americans are not in great danger, and that is obviously true. no serious scientist disputes the accuracy of that statement. but then dr. atlas did what you can absently not do ever in this brave new world they've created. he pointed out that statistical models, the technocrats use to justify their's existence have been catastrophically wrong. >> the policymakers in general, they put in a locked down didn't care at all, they did not look at all at the consequences of the lockdown. they used hypothetical projection models that were so egregiously wrong, far, far off, yet they keep citing those models. >> even now? >> even now. so the extension of the lockdown is the problem. >> tucker: so this is why that should scare you. that was not allowed by our tech overlords and yet no one disputes what dr. atlas said in the clip you just saw was true. look it up and verify it, assuming you are still allowed to. because it is true, we will continue to say it and things like it. fox

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scott atlas himself.ck a couple months ago. >> those who are not at risk to die or have a serious hospital requiring illness, we should be fine with letting them get infected generating immunity on their own. and the more immunity in the community, the better we can eradicate the threat of the virus including the threat to people who are vulnerable. that's what herd immunity is. >> that's what he was advocating for back then. so when he says he's never advocated for this, that was clear defense of letting the infection just spread through the community. and that's the concern, pamela. >> yeah. and it's interesting. he said in the interview today that he's disgusted but didn't advocate. seems like some antics. thank you so much, sanjay. i appreciate you coming on. >> you got it. >>> well, nearly six months after breonna taylor's death, the only person charged after the incident, her boyfriend, now says police did it for only one reason. that's next. what happens now? now that the rent's due but they've cut

and increasingly concerned that what scott atlas is sharing with the president is making its way to the now, i approached dr. redfield after we landed and asked him if indeed he was referring to atlas. he confirmed that to us, and then talked to me for several minutes about how worried he is at this juncture of the pandemic, telling me in contradiction with the president that if all of us wore masks, this pandemic would be over, in, quote, 8 to 12 weeks. we should point out the cdc confirmed this conversation took place. they want to back up redfield and comments he has made in public that, of course, he's come under scrutiny for when it comes to the president, who is quite frustrated with you'll remember several instances in which redfield had sworn testimony the president said he was mistaken or confused on. the white house for their part issued a statement on behalf of dr. atlas who says everything that he has told the president has been backed by science and data. dr. redfield told me something else that contradicts the president's rosier messaging when he says we're rounding the co

scott atlas.come. >> thank you for having me. >> you've taken a great deal of heat about allowing people to get not locking down schools and businesses, the los angeles times suggested just another way to let people die. where are you, doctor, on herd immunity? >> well, unfortunately, i'm new to washington, i didn't realize that complete lies could be published and then built up by other secondary publications. frankly, you know, there has never been an advisement by me to the president of the united states, to anyone here, to anyone on the task force to pour sue some kind of strategy of herd immunity. there has never been as strategy of the president to pursue herd immunity or like sweden or anyone else has done. it just completely false and i even said it was completely false, but i guess the denials in washington are irrelevant. i don't know what to say about that, but basically i can control what other people say i can only control what i say. >> do you have the president's ear because you are

scott atlas. with who went with him to california? scott atlas. that's who has his ear now, guy who advocates for opening schools, let kids get sick, let them spread the virus around. he testified to this before a senate committee hearing in may. and that's what the president parrots now. that's actually really creepy to me. >> yeah, but that is a thing among trump supporters. they -- that whole -- >> yeah. >> -- they don't know the facts when it comes to herd immunity. they just don't really get it and understand it. they think it's something different than what it is. the president also addressed -- >> they have a herd mentality. >> so maybe it's a thing with them. they do have a herd mentality. >> right. >> thank you for that. thanks for explaining it. masks. here it is. >> yeah. >> now, there is, by the way, a lot of people don't want to wear masks. there are a lot of people think that masks are not good. and there are a lot of people that as an example -- >> who are those people? >> i'll tell you who those people are. waiters. they come over

who is trying to censor white house adviser scott atlas and why are they doing it? he's here. after the ambush of two l.a. county officers, we got video of the aftermath. and raymond arroyo joins us in seen and unseen. first, the coming biden lock down. that's the focus of the angle. the old saying no news is good news? where covid is concerned, why does it always seem like good news is bad news? just as the ingraham angle told you months ago, biden has two running mates. there's kamala. we know about her. and then there's covid. the more active across the country they both are, the less old joe has to campaign for himself. now, the problem for the biden covid ticket is that the virus is slowing down just like the presidential nominee himself. come on, man. the last two weeks, the average number of daily covid cases has plummeted 17%. remember when we were first sold the lockdown, it was all about saving the hospitals. it was very important to do that. check out the latest data on covid hospitalizations by age group from the cdc. it's down, down, down. among all age groups. th

scott atlas, the president's new task force member.ng influence in the white house is why one of the nation's top experts has just about had enough. a source telling cnn that dr. debra birk has been telling friends and colleagues she's not sure how long she can keep serving on the task force. it is a big deal this is happening now because birx has tolerated a lot from the president. she stayed on even after this now infamous moment. >> then i see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. >> birx was visible awkward and upset in that moment. she had to watch all of us replay it again and again and again. she said nothing to trump publicly and faced criticism for it. she did later talk to him about it. >> i made it clear and he understood that it was not as a treatment. >> but she was quiet at that crucial moment and didn't humiliate him. and there were other times though she did go out and publicly correct trump. >> we've h

you look at scott atlas. you look at some of the other doctors from stanford, some of the other doctors. they think we could have done that from the beginning. >> so, he specifically credits you with herd immunity. you've said you're not pushing that idea on the president. he is giving you credit. have you told him that he's wrong? >> he's not crediting me with herd immunity. i didn't invent it. it's a known biological phenomenon -- >> but you're in support of it. >> if i can finish. what i am telling you is that the president is saying many people understand herd immunity and understand that population immunity is a factor in the development -- that is exactly why vaccines are given. and i would suggest to you and your readers that you educate yourselves and listen to people like michael lev it or one of the world famous epidemiologists, listen to her interview from september 17th on the bbc. you have to know the facts. you can't just say it's all about the science, not know the science, not understand the s

scott atlas and dr. birx is central to new reporting showing how the white house put pressure on the cdc to try to get the cdc to play down the risks of reopening schools this fall. more in a moment but let's look at the latest numbers. 23 states trending up. more new infections this week compared to the data a week ago. you see across the plains and out into the west where the states are, not the most populous states but look at that, 23 states, 20 holding steady. seven states at the moment trending down. just want to highlight georgia, florida, texas and arizona were a big part of the summer surge in cases and this week reporting newer new infections than a week ago. again the trouble is in the less populous states across the plains and the prairie. the state testing rate, the positivity rate, you just heard a slight uptick in new york to 3%. it is 21% in idaho. 25% highest in the country in south dakota. you see it in the teens. 16 in kansas. 11 in florida. arizona down to 5. you want to get it to fiv

so happy with doctor ratliff anymore, he says youtube took down a june 20 third interview with scott atlasnd his employer because it contradicts the world health organization or local health authorities medical information about covid-19. to tell people what he was talking about, atlas didn't deny the seriousness of the disease or the need to act to prevent its spread, merely question the efficacy of broad lockdowns and the resulting creation of acute economic distress, another unintended consequence that compromises public health. is it possible for the covid-19 conversation to be apolitical? >> not sure can be apolitical but it ought to be wide open to all sorts of different viewpoints. youtube is supposed to be an open forum, all the big tech sites are supposed to be where a lot of different voices are heard, doctor scott atlas is not an epidemiologist but is a medical expert and his views are based on various studies he has seen. the idea they would shut him down because it disagrees with the world health organization and other health authorities who have been all over the place on thi

scott atlas is here to expose the real truth. plus an idaho man arrested for refusing to wear a mask at an outdoor church service. guess he wasn't protesting hard enough. he's here with me next exclusively. ♪ >> more than 90% of the population remains susceptible to coronavirus. do you agree with that assessment? >> yeah, i think that dr. rex field misstated something there. i'm going to answer your question if you let me finish. the data that he was talking about was his surveillance data that show that roughly 9% of the country has antibodies. but when you look at the cdc data state-by-state, much of that data is old. >> were we to believe? >> you're supposed to believe the science and i'm telling of the science. i'm telling you the science and that's the answer. and if you want to look up all the data, you're free to buried >> americans are looking for the best information. >> i'm giving you the best information. >> laura: that was a perfect exchange. white house covid advisor dr. scott atlas, joining me now. thanks for joinin

scott atlas seems to be the principle voice in the president's ear right now. that's concerning to a lot of public health experts. and doesn't have a lot of experience in infectious diseases and something that health experts are concerned about. his points or his, you know, when he talks about the efficacy of masks, when he pushes this idea of herd immunity. something that's not been trumpeted or championed by any health experts in this country. dr. robert redfield was having a private discussion regarding a number of points that he has made publicly about covid-19. just to wrap this up, guys, since he joined the task force in august he has been at odds publicly with several points of dr. robert redfield including just how many americans are susceptible to this virus. we have reached out to dr. atlas as well as the white house to get comment about this report. we have yet to hear back but the cdc not denying that this took place. >> regardless of what was on the other side of the conversation, he said straight up, had he shares false information. that's a remar

so, "the washington post" is reporting that scott atlas, scott atlas is a neuroradiologist, who is working in the white house as a pandemic adviser. that -- that scott atlas has been pushing the president to embrace herd immunity. i heard this, early on, from people i knew. and it was just -- i kept sending them the fact checks on herd immunity. and they've just -- you know, google dunn and kruger, please. so atlas is pushing back on that reporting. but what does that tell us, if that's the way that the white house is looking at this fight against the virus? >> well, i think it means he doesn't understand herd immunity. originally, a concept to say how many vaccinations do you have to do to reach the level that a virus stops transmitting in the country? we think that the virus would have to infect, or people would have to be immunized, by about two-thirds or 70% of the entire country. in order to get that way, through a vaccine, we're hoping that that will be without very many deaths, at all. but if you want to go the route of letting everybody get the disease, and reaching herd immunity t

shannon: we will talk to doctor scott atlas about that coming up. the presidential battle over vaccine strategies seem to have a lot in common on display as joe biden laid out how he says his administration would undertake the massive approval effort. jackie heinrich takes a look from wilmington, delaware. >> reporter: the biggest news from biden is his legal team thinks as president he would have the authority to an actor nationwide federal mask mandated by executive order. that is a big deal because so far he had only voiced support for a national mask mandate enacted by governors. this would be a step beyond. >> our legal team thinks i can do that based on the degree to which there is a crisis in those states and how bad things are for the country. and if we don't do it what happens. >> reporter: public health officials told biden universal mask wearing could save 100,000 lives by january if implemented now. biden also cited donald trump's and cdc director who testified today masks could give better protection than a vaccine depending on its effi

scott atlas has been taking over and has had the president's ear. the white house and the president have been talking about covid in ways that are new. and that lined up with the state of view of this guy who was kind of a prank on this subject. it did not get much attention when he said it. there was so much else going on. when the president said this that i am about to show you at the rnc last week. he was apparently describing a new strategy for coronavirus. this is not the way that he described it before. it was the middle of his rnc speech. this is not what him and the white house used to say of how we are tackling this epidemic as a country. >> we are sheltering those at highest risk, especially the elderly, allowing low-risk americans to safely return to work and school, and we want to see so many of those great states be open by democrats. we want them to be open. they have to be open. they have to get back to work. >> they have to be open. they have to be open. they have to be open. shelter higher risk and allow lower risk to get back to wo

scott atlas. >> i don't think any of us felt we could sit by and not say something. ially as members of the same community from which he draws his alleged credibility. >> atlas held his position as chief of neurology for over a decade. but he has no direct background in treating infectious diseases. this doctor was involved in drug trials at stanford and also signed the letter. >> i think in the long run, we were worried about the impact of people coming here and thinking that this is the way people at stampl thought. >> we attempted to contact him by email with you we were unsuccessful. one line appeared on twitter saying truth will prevail. hash facts matter. >> now in a statemen to abc7 news, stanford medicine said in part, dr. scott atlas is a senior fellow at stanford's hoover institution and has no current affiliation stanford medicine. >>> covid-19 has changed the way we live and work probably forever. as part of our effort to build a better bay area, we're looking at the changing work place. today we look at the people who don't have the option to work from ho

scott atlas.ne of the rare members of congress was thought a lot about the effect of big techho monopolies on our society and our freedoms is senator josh hawley, joins us tonight, thanks so much for coming on. you have been, to your credit, been warning about this for quite some time. clearly dystopia has arrived. to come once from a presidential election, these comps a companies have a hammerlock on our election. what can we do to throw off their control and restore freedom of speech and thought and inquiry in this country before then? is there anything? >> we can let people sue, tucker, and we can let people like dr. atlas sue and you to take their videos down, dr. yang won her twitter account getsr canceled, we can let her sue. right now they can't. nobody can. if you could discriminate against on the basis of speech by these platforms, you have no recourse because of the law that congress has written. this is the heart of the sweetheart deal, and it is time to end it. that's all we can get th

scott atlas is on the coronavirus white house task force, and he joins us tonight.orward question, are you trying to infect more americans with the coronavirus? >> thanks for having me, talker. the news is out of control, i think because everybody knew -- maybe i didn't know, i'm not one of these washington insiders, but there is news, opinion, and overt lies, and that was one of those overt lies. the ultimate straw man, to put a falsehood out there, and have everybody attack -- there is no advising going on from me about wide open and pursuing a herd immunity strategy. i've never said that to the president or the task force. no one has ever said that to the president, i never have heard the president say that, and that is not a strategy here in any way, shape, or form. it is just an overt live, but this is washington, so i am learning quite a bit. nothing about the coronavirus, but i'm learning quite a bit about human nature. >> tucker: yeah, and certainly the way campaigns are conducted. did someone from "the washington post" call you and ask you directly, is this

scott atlas for spreading misinformation, meanwhile, police report in florida says the wife of recently demoted trump campaign manager brad parscale was found bruised and told them he had hit her in the past. >>> let's talk more though about that "the new york times" story on president trump's taxes, big waves coming as result of that, the times report that the president paid only $750 in personal federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017 and paid no income taxes in ten of the last 15 years, he did pay other forms of federal taxes including medicare, associate security and the alternative minimum tax, nbc news hasn't seen the tax documents, and for his part the president as you can imagine calling the story "fake news." i'm joined by washington post national reporter. and wnyc senior reporter who hosts the trump inc. podcast, all about the money behind the trump empire. how much did this "new york times" enlighten us about the president's finances? >> well, it really filled in a lot of the details on stuff that we had been wondering about for all these years. when you think back to inaugura

instead, looking to scott atlas. he is not one of those world-class experts in infectious disease and public health. in fact, he doesn't have background in that area. an excellent neuroradiologist but not the expert resource that the president or others should be seeking out in the middle of a global pandemic crisis like the one we're struggling with now. >> in the past he's play and expert on fox tv and that is apparently how he got the president's attention. thank you very much, dr. peggy hamburg. always good to hear from you. >> thank you. >>> and preparing for the first face-off with the presidential campaign tomorrow night. senator chris van hollen, once joe biden's sparring partner in debate prep joins us next. >>> join msnbc for coverage of the first presidential debate starting at 8:00 eastern right here on msnbc and join us on our local nbc station at 9:00 with lester, savannah and chuck. so you can keep pursuing the life you love. aetna medicare solutions. understanding how to talk to your doctor about trea

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scott atlas says. a lot of it is not based in science.is task force of the president, so it's very important to at least hear what he's saying and discern the truth from fiction. how concerned are you about this schizophren ? >> i'm very concerned, and i agree with dr. redfield 100%. there are things dr. atlas has said to the public and media that aren't true. you can fact check and delve into the science, and some of the things he's saying are questionable. dr. atlas said everything he says is rooted in data and science, and i would love to see that data so i can examine it for myself. there have been so many things that he has said that actually have been alarming to the point where 78 of his former colleagues actually penned an open letter and called him out saying that the things he was saying was a misinterpretation of the science and falsehoods. if his own former colleagues are distancing themselves from the statements that he's making and refuse to support him, then why should we. that's a huge red flag. >>, doctor, thank you so mu

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does that mean scott atlas has a problem or not?> well, so far the white house has been sticking behind dr. atlas. we've been seeing him at these briefings. it was notable that dr. redfield was not at the press briefing. the president held yesterday on testing, even though we know there was a task force meeting. my colleague monica alba had great reporting from yesterday about the cdc director dr. redfield publicly complaining about dr. atlas saying that what he is doing is giving the president also information. all of this internal drama, of course, is going on as we are seeing a spike in cases in so many places, as we may be getting close to find something data on a vaccine. and it just feeds into this sense of chaos within the administration while, of course, real people are trying to live their lives. you have this internal drama going on, like we have seen in pretty much every group of humans in this white house going back to the very internal data. jockeying themselves for whatever the issue is, whether it's trade or foreign p

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scott atlas from stanford university. dr. redfield is said to be concerned that dr. atlas is saying things that are not true. what could those be? dr. atlas in the past has made statements about herd immunity. he claims he's not promoting herd immunity to the president but something we know dr. atlas has talked about in the past. we last week heard dr. atlas at the podium directly contradict dr. redfield on the number of americans who might still be susceptible to coronavirus. dr. redfield said it may be 90% and dr. atlas went up there and said no, redfield completely wrong here so you can see some of the tension here. what do you make of it? >> well, first of all, there is no such thing as herd immunity for coronaviruses. if you've got coronavirus once, you can get it again. if you get covid-19 once, you can get it again. the concept of herd immunity is a murderous concept, given the nature of this disease. conservatively, in the first year or two, 2 million to 6 million americans would die if we do nothing, which is basically what herd immunity argues and those deat

white house covid advisor doctor scott atlas joins me now. thank you for joining us tonight. was it so important to correct that reporter's of questioning? >> thanks for having me. it's very difficult these days, honestly, i just want to say i empathize with the american people who have been told conflicting information from a variety of sources, some of whom should know all the facts, but not everybody knows the data, not everybody is hands on reading the data, and the media has done a poor job of explaining, allowing the data to be brought forward, having said that, the facts are that people like me are reading as much as we can, we are trying to do the best we can, because the truth is critical here, and we are in a pandemic, and it's been a tragedy, 200,000 people have died, on the other hand, the truth is -- the facts have evolved since the start. this is not march. we know a lot about this disease. we know who to protect. we know who has high risk and we know who does not have high risk, and when you get facts that are sort of partial truths, i think it is very damaging

scott atlas, advisor to the president and dr. at stanford university.lay this quick sound bite from the maternity ceo. here's what he said about when they think there is will be ready. >> i think it's unlikely, but it is possible. in the country wants to slow down in the next week, it could potentially be pushed out as a worst-case scenario, december. >> martha: that sounds to me like that individual, the ceo of madrona expects a similar time frame as what the president said. sk scenario, october, definitely something approved, he believes, by the end of december. it does that sound like that lines up to you? because that's exactly right. and no one knows. we know that there's production and manufacturing going on so we have really over 100 million doses before the end of the year. we know that the clinical trials are underway, and we know that no one can look at the data, no one in the administration -- not the president, no one, because it's being looked at by something called the data safety monitoring board which are outside experts. the best-case s

scott atlas was reportedly criticized by another top official. dr. rt redfield was overheard on the phone speaking about dr. atlas saying everything he says is false and that the he has provided the president with misleading data. they have differing positions on those issues and agree on many other issues. and the cdc goes on to say that atlas and redfield had differ opinions had it comes to the value of wearing masks, herd immunity, and youth infection. the white house is also responding to this by saying that the president consults way number of experts who offer varying opinions. he uses all of those opinions to inform his policy. and, pamela, the white house goes on to say that everyone, including the president, recommends wearing a face mask when you cannot social distance. at least that is what they are saying today. >> that is what they are saying. all right. thanks so much, alex field. and joining me now to discuss, dr. seema yasmin. thanks so much for coming pont nice on. nice to see you. new cases ticking up in 21 states and the cdc directo

that's really because scott atlas occupied that space. dr. ield was on a flight from atlanta to washington, d.c. speaking to a colleague and making references to comments dr. atlas said in the past and referring to those as false and expressed his concern to me in a conversation afterwards in the airport terminal to essentially say he's worried this information dr. atlas is pushing is ultimately giving to the prub and he is giving that to the public, and dr. redfield told me if every single person wore a face covering the pandemic would be over in eight to 12 weeks. he contradicted something the president continues to say in the last few weeks which is the u.s. is rounding the corner on the pandemic. dr. redfield telling me we are nowhere near the end. dr. atlas did provide a statement via the white house saying everything he supplied the president with is backed in science and data, but you mentioned at the introduction, compared to fauci and birx, atlas does not share their background and he's the medical adviser that spends the most time wi