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scott atlas, the recipient of their finger-pointing responds exclusively tonight. first, biden's race to the bottom. that's the focus of tonight's angle. a long, long time ago, joe biden was against using executive orders to ram through what is properly left to the legislature. >> some of my republican friends and some of my democratic friends occasionally say well, if you can't get the votes by executive order coming or going to do something. things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. we are democracy. we need consensus. >> laura: the dictator through that idea of the way nobody because the biden brigade has a country to remake and redeem. today he continued taking a wrecking ball to his unity goal. the man who served up as, he was the vp to the two-term african-american president. he tripled down on the negative view that america at her core is racist. >> our soul will be troubled as long a systemic racism is allowed to persist. we can't eliminate it, it's knocking to be overnight. we can't eliminate everything. but it's corrosive. it's dest

to the white house and speak to one of president trump's closest coronavirus advisers professor scott atlas thank you so much god for coming on you interpret the data how bad is covidien in the usa i'm sure you know that the democrat leaning mainstream media says it's corona virus that could spell the end of the trump presidency. ok well thanks for having me well i mean it is a it's a it's a deadly pandemic there's no under stating that we've had 230000 lies roughly lost and from the from the virus and certainly many many loss from the policy of shutdowns so it's tragic there's no question about that but if you want to know what's happening right now i think there's a gross distortion that has sort of been a typical of the reporting on this and that is that there's this frenzy of focusing on a number of cases when we see a lot of reasons to be sort of you know cautiously optimistic here rather than fearful and those reasons are very important for people understand 1st of all the cases number the case number is not the most important matter what's important to understand is that the vast maj

professor scott atlas he tells us why he thinks lockdowns mass testing in mosques though told. all of them all coming up in today's going on the ground 1st with just days ahead of the u.s. presidential election which will have a global impact as a global coronavirus pandemic continues to take lives not least in the united states itself let's go straight to the white house and speak to one of president trump's closest coronavirus advisers professor scott atlas thank you so much god for coming on you interpret the data how bad is coded in the usa i'm sure you know that the democrat leaning mainstream media says it's corona virus that could spell the end of the trump presidency. ok well thanks for having me well i mean it is a it's a it's a deadly pandemic there's no under stating that we've had 230000 lies roughly lost and from the from the virus and certainly many many loss from the policy of shutdowns so it's tragic there's no question about that but if you want to know what's happening right now i think there's a gross distortion that has sort of been a typical of the reportin

scott atlas. welcome back. have you with us. >> thank you for having me. >> shannon: what about this newfound appreciation for positive news on the covid front two days out from the new administration? >> i think it's great. i welcome all positive news. it would be a great change to start focusing on what's positive here. i think we are sitting here with sort of a damaged american psyche. partly because of the constant drum of negative news. there was an article in the national bureau of economic research pointing out that the american media has been overwhelmingly negative about covid articles compared to all other major media. probably partly that was due to the political, you know the election, we have reasons to be optimistic. vaccines are highly effective. if we can get them rolled out to the people who should be prioritized, that's how you save lives. >> shannon: there is been such a patchwork quilt across the country. "the washington post" says shots are slow to reach arms as trump administration leaves

scott atlas is next. coat advisor, ♪ >> laura: operation warp speed, how quickly they got this done, the vaccine across the country. it's incredible. governorse in blue states are using these odd metrics for who gets the vaccine. who will get it first. over people who are truly vulnerable and in need. look at these graphics. 7 out of 10 are run by republican governors. in blue states there are questions to ask. joining me is dr. scott atlas former covid advisor at the white house. why is it so hard for governors to prioritize those who are 65 and older if >> laura, thanks for having me. i am not sure on the question of why. that's always a difficult question. it seems obvious to me if you look at the logic put forth in the "wall street journal" the idea of the vaccine is to stop people from dying.ac you should give it to the people who are at risk for dying. that makes sense to me. i am not sure it's complicated. but it's complicateed to get vaccine into people. we know this, according to hhs yesterday, w

scott atlas former covid advisor at the white house.rs to prioritize those who are 65 and older if >> laura, thanks for having me. i am not sure on the question of why. that's always a difficult question. it seems obvious to me if you look at the logic put forth in the "wall street journal" the idea of the vaccine is to stop people from dying. you should give it to the people who are at risk for dying. that makes sense to me. i am not sure it's complicated. but it's complicateed to get vaccine into people. according to hhs yesterday, 21 million doses were delivered. yet only 25% maximum of those had been administered. that seems like another fumbling by the governors. they knew the vaccine was coming. outlets were set up by the federal effort operation warp speed but we have 75% of doses not administered. the second part besides being for older people who might die. it's obvious people who had the infection have their own protect. this is shown by decades of biology. somehow we are ignoring that and giving vaccines it people who have th

scott atlas, former white house covid advisor, senior institute fellow, dr. ach step of the way the scientific establishment, at least that based in washington and many academic circles have too often failed us. >> hey, laura, thank you for having me. i think it is another example how the information really was never transparent. you know, for a variety of reasons come up they're covered up by china were covered up by people here for simply, you know, not aggressively pursued by the press or anyone else who should have known better. we have had incomplete information, the story from the beginning that this virus was from a market. you know, we don't know, but it seems a little bit unlikely given the high level of coincidence, if nothing else that the main viral laboratory of china is right there working on these viruses. so we've never had the complete story, and it doesn't surprise me there were ulterior motives and people saying things that they really didn't know they were true or false. it doesn't matter because they said things as if it was true. >> laura

coronavirus task force member doctor scott atlas on that next. .. >> shannon: with the biden era about to begin, jon favreau is applauding the positivity from a the biden era about the "former obama speech writer applauding the positivity from the new york times piece about the efficacy of covid-19 vaccines noting good or hopeful news itself has an effect on public health. to argue that seems like a contrast from the last 10 months of most pandemic coverage when any good news has been hard to come by. former white house advisor doctor scott atlas, welcome back. >> thank you for having me. >> what about the newfound appreciation for positive news on covid-19 french two days from a new administration? >> it is great. i welcome all positive news, a great change to start focusing on what is positive. we are sitting here with a damaged american psyche partly because of the constant drama of negative nudes. an article in the national bureau of economic research pointing out the american media has been overwhelmingly negative compared to other major media and partly that was due to the politi

scott atlas, great to hear from you. >> thank you. here now byron york for the washington examiner and dan henninger. gentlemen, welcome to you both. byron, to you first. you know, president biden, i want to play this and get this out of the way. i'll have both of you sign in. show this picture and the image and he said it again today, the mask mandate. everybody should wear mask for 100 days. yesterday he did not have a mask on while he was at the lincoln memorial during the time that he was speaking to the press and a lot of people said there he goes, not really abiding by his own mandate. we should note that jen psaki didn't have a mask. big deal or not, byron? >> well, i don't think it's a huge deal on this. first of all, it's a good thing that the new president is making a big deal out of coronavirus. that's a good thing. on the other hand, on what the president is doing now you have to divide it between style and substance. i think americans will like a president getting up there and speaking in an organized way, we're going to

and here is scott atlas. to subtly needle president trump, kind of indicate how much smarter and better off we are with president biden them if get that sense? >> i didn't watch it. i try not to watch stuff like that, but the reality is if i had a dollar for every time somebody said it's all about the science but then they either didn't speak to the science, didn't know the science, or spoke the science, i'd be a rich guy. i never had a problem saying the truth and the science because that's all i was there for. i had no intend for interest in saying anything about the facts in the science on the right health care policy and that's what i did, so i don't think there should ever be a change in that and if somebody is not really that, i think that's a problem. i don't know what happened before i got there. i walked in in august and they already had seven or eight months of doing whatever they were doing and saying. and frankly, the last thing i'll say is i don't think it's a big positive to be up front they alt

to the white house and speak to one of president trump's closest coronavirus advisors professor scott atlas thank you so much god for coming on you interpret the data how bad is coded in the usa i'm sure you know that the democrat leaning mainstream media says it's corona virus that could spell the end of the trump presidency. ok well thanks for having me well i mean it is a it's a it's a deadly pandemic there's no under stating that we've had 230000 lies roughly lost and from the from the virus and certainly many many loss from the policy of shutdowns so it's tragic there's no question about that but if you want to know what's happening right now i think there's a gross distortion that has sort of been a typical of the reporting on this and that is that there's this frenzy of focusing on a number of cases when we see a lot of reasons to be sort of you know cautiously optimistic here rather than fearful and those reasons are very important for people understand 1st of all the cases number the case number is not the most important matter what's important to understand is that the vast majori

advisor professor scott atlas the mainstream media reaction and after his subsequent apology for his appearance hasn't stopped one man from going on the show as voters elect the president of the united states president all trumps personal lawyer and former mayor of new york city rudy giuliani joins me now via skype from washington d.c. rudy welcome to going underground especially for the election why have you called today's election the most important in your lifetime well i think there's such a stark difference between the directions in which the 2 candidates would take the country and donald trump would take it in the direction of sri enterprise.

apparently listens to on the pandemic white house going to virus a top school survives a professor scott atlas he tells us why he thinks lockdowns mass testing and mosques go to hold up all of them all coming up in today's going on the ground 1st with just days ahead of the u.s. presidential election which will have a global impact as a global coronavirus pandemic continues to take lives not least in the.

scott atlas. i'm not going to put you on the spot about sir charles. i will let that one slide. think about the governors rolling out the vaccine? i don't think anyone knows when and where to get a shot these days. >> thanks for having me. i think there is a logical way to do the vaccine distribution. it's not a distribution as much as a prioritization. i look at the state of florida. it seems logical. governor desantis has prioritized the people who are going to die. and the logic of it was outlined from stanford and oxford, prioritized the people that are going to die. that means the elderly and high risk people. florida is the only state last i looked which was this morning, where most of their vaccinations have been in the high risk group. it's astounding to me that there is only one state out of 50 where most of their vaccinations have been given to the high-risk group. that's sort of amazing to me. jesse: cuomo botched it from the go. he's requiring people in their 80s to log on and create a password and navigate pages of to get certified. many of them live in old folks ho

world this week of dry headline making interview with white house going to virus advise a professor scott atlas the mainstream media reaction and. after his subsequent apology for his apparent how to stop one man from coming on the show as voters elect the president of the united states president all trump person a lawyer and former mayor of new york city rudy giuliani joins me now via skype from washington d.c. rudy welcome to going on the ground especially with the election why have you called today's election the most important in your lifetime well i think there's such a stark difference between the directions in which the 2 candidates would take the country i mean donald trump would take it in the direction of free enterprise continued growth in our economy which he brought to the highest point it's ever been right before the pandemic beyond any other american president more jobs higher income better growth that all 'd of a sudden we got hit by the endemic in all the democrats were predicting to your depression 25 percent unemployment will never get out of it will take years and here we ar

straight to the white house and speak to one of president trump's closest coronavirus advisers reza scott atlas thank you so much governor coming on you interpret the data how bad is covidien in the usa i'm sure you know that the democrat leaning mainstream media says it's corona virus that could spell the end of the trump presidency. ok well thanks for having me well i mean it is a it's a it's a deadly pandemic there's no under stating that we've had 230000 lives. lost and from that from the virus and certainly many many loss from the policy shutdowns so it's tragic there's no question about that but if you want to know what's happening right now i think there is a gross distortion that his surrogates typical of reporting out.

world this week of dry headline making interview with white house current virus advisor professor scott atlas the mainstream media reaction and after his subsequent apology for his appearance has a stop one month from going on the show as voters elect the president of the united states president all trumps personal lawyer and former mayor of new york city rudy giuliani joins me now via skype from washington d.c. rudy welcome to going underground especially for the election why have you called today's election the most important in your lifetime well i think there's such a stark difference between the directions in which the 2 candidates would take the country i mean donald trump would take it in the direction of free enterprise continued growth in oregon i mean which he drove to the highest point it's ever been right before the pandemic beyond any other american president more jobs higher income better growth that all 'd of a sudden we got hit by the pandemic and all the democrats were predicting to your depression 25 percent unemployment we'll never get out of it will take years and here we

welcome back i'm still here with professor scott atlas of the white house coronavirus tosswill where you are clearly excited about possible treatments for cove and of course your president has been talking about controlling drug pricing should he be reelected this while the big pharmaceutical companies are funding joe biden's campaign sensible of president trump with a few days to go before the election to attack the profits of the big pharmaceutical companies. i think what he's doing is he's attacking. sort of the me asymmetry in prices that you know people are paying for drugs here in the u.s. but i think you have to look at the policies that he's done and understand where he's coming from because in drug pricing in the us for the 1st time in decades under the trump administration the prices came down the consumer price index or pharmaceuticals came down that's never been done for decades i haven't seen it historically beyond saccades ago but that's the 1st time and so that's from increased competition deregulation making prices making drug prices sensitive to the demand of a payer

is ok but i want to ask you about me here i want to ask about this point about the media because scott atlas of the white house coronavirus task force had a tweet deleted you sent material to the new york post i understand twitter took it down at one point the evidence that you had provided in the beyond the new york post not meet write down all the details of the story but term pad 3 and a half years to reform the media reform media in the united states that alone the tech companies why didn't he do so and how can he turn this around the mood here in the united states are protected by the 1st amendment she had done that it would've been challenged in court every liberal in the world would have gone nuts if he tried to censor the media or you'd be totally unrealistic i mean can trump do anything right i mean the reality is an american president can't own down the media or rudy giuliani i'll stop you there more from president trump's 1st a lawyer after this break. the way of life reindeer herders leading a traditionally nomadic lifestyle tundra is similar to a parallel reality. that drive the

. >> laura: joining me now is the ever mention scott atlas, former white house covid advisor and apparently, dr. atlas, you were providing these nefarious parallel forms of data to embarrass dr. birx and fauci or contradict their deities. what happened? >>>> thanks for having me, laur. i'm shocked to hear anyone that thinks they only monopoly should be the sole purveyor for the president. when you are an advisor for the president, there are a bunch of people inside the white house, a bunch of people in agencies, a bunch of people outside advising the president to have this bizarre notion that she should be the only one providing information to the president is an exposure of tremendous insecurity. you have somebody, a government bureaucrat for 30 years pontificating in front of tens of 30 people in meetings multiple times a week, none of whom know a thing about medicine or science for eight months, and i come in in august and i say, well, what about this, what about these papers, this data, and you have input from people, the best epidemiologists in the world from stanford and harvard all o

he said, he brings in scott atlas as a pandemic advisor, who is a complete foil to poor debbie birx. i felt so bad for her, because he completely undermined her. he didn't undermined me because i didn't give a f about him.bb i didn't care what he said. i thought this was supposed tobo be a collaborative environment. i thought that's what liberals and he's a liberal, they all want more voices, it's good let's bat around ideas -- but he wanted his seat untouched. >> i'm very naive to washington. i'm not somebody who sat there for 30 years and a bureaucratic government position. i've been out working in clinical medicine and academic medicine and health policy for 15 or so years. i'm used to being challenged. these people are sitting here they're not used to being challenged. there's a lot of smart people in the hoover institution, if you don't know what you're talking about, you will be made a fool of. they were sitting there unchallenged for eight months.en i walked in and august, i said what about these studies? what about this? i brought in famous epidemiologist and infectious disea

scott atlas brought in his own collection of data. dr.e felt the only way she could convey her message was to leave washington and take the truth on the road. she traveled to 40 states. dr. birx said these trips allowed her to speak freely with less concern of backlash over the virus. >>> moeexico's president has tested positive for the coronavirus. he says his symptoms are mild and receiving medical treatment. he will continue his work and plans to speak to vladimir putin today. mexico is one of 17 countries in the world that has reported 1 million covid-19 cases. >>> israel is taking extreme measures to stop variants from entering the country. all incoming flights from non-israeli airlines are banned. israeli airlines are canceling all flights except for medical treatments, funerals and israel has seen weeks of soaring deaths. >>> after a free pass from the trump administration for the last four years, russia is now lashing out at the biden administration as massive protests spread across the country. fred pleitgen is live in moscow thi

birx also provided a suspect: >> i know now by watching some of the tapes that certainly scott atlas brought in parallel data streams. >> stephen: and if the rumors are true, the former president will pay extra for streams. ♪♪ up. >> stephen: we'll see. we'll see. speaking of which, the ex-president is in deep doo-doo, and i'll tell you all about it in tonight's "don and the giant impeach 2: go fast, we're furious." >> our president is inciting evil. that's very sticky. >> stephen: in our last episode, the former potus became the first president ever to be impeached twice. those are the only times he's won the popular vote. tonight, members of the house of representatives officially walked the article over to the senate. they did this once before, but last time, they didn't have to step over as much shattered glass and poop streaks. but we're not going to be hearing a hearing anytime soon, 'cause the senate has decided to hit pause for two weeks, because dems want president biden to be able to fill his cabinet and begin work on his agenda, and republicans want to give the former pres

scott atlas cherry picked from fox.edentials once had a tweet removed questioning mask wearing as cases and the death toll rose and rose. around this time as trump tweeted birx was pathetic saying publicly the virus was spreading she started taking the truth on the road warning states the pandemic was out of control. >> why would you be sneaking around? you're the head of the covid task force and tens of thousands of americans are dieing. why is that a covert operation? >> because this isn't working and you're not going to get that to work. you have to find another solution. >> except for many americans and their families, that solution came way too late. months too late. instead of saying it out loud birx went on a tour telling officials privately what they weren't hearing from the president. and as reporters like maggie haberman note she wasn't really interested in speaking with reporters. >> i always feel like i could have done more, been more outspoken. maybe been more outspoken publicly. i didn't know all the conse

scott atlas on this show and he was talking to people about no issue wearing masks at crowded ralliesviously he had promoted the concept of herd immunity to the president and herd immunity versus transmission, then there was the unfounded claims about hiydroxyc hydroxyc hydroxychloroquine. how bad was the information given to the president regularly? >> there was a combination of good information and bad information. unfortunately, the concept of anecdotal as opposed to science-driven information seemed to prevail. i think if you look at the pushback that i got from people in the white house, including the president, about hydroxychloroquine was one of the reasons why i felt it was essential for me to -- not in a confrontational way, i took no pleasure out of confronting the president, but i had to get out just to maintain my own integrity but also to stand up for science that the data did not show what they werecdotes a the spurring on to take a look at a scientific approach. but to be ruled by anecdote is folly. >> right, and that obviously is what happened, right? we heard it. ther

i know now, watching some of the tapes, that certainly scott atlas brought in parallel data streams.ennan: so the chief-of-staff is not saying, wait a minute, this is our official coordinator, listen to her and her only. listen to you. no one was saying that? >> doctor: no one said that to me. i don't know if they said that to the president. >> brennan: we've got a lot more of our interview coming, so don't go away. (judith) nope, we tailor portfolios to our client's needs. (money manager) but you do sell investments that earn you high commissions, right? (judith) we don't have those. (money manager) so what's in it for you? (judith) our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. at fisher investments we're clearly different. if you have risk factors like heart disease, diabetes and raised triglycerides,... ...vascepa can give you something to celebrate. ♪ vascepa, when added to your statin,... ...is clinically proven to provide 25% lower risk from heart attack and stroke. vascepa is clearly different. first and only fda approved. celebrate less risk. even for th

i know now watching some of the tapes that certainly scott atlas brought in parallel data streams.w who else was part of it. >> how does that track? >> i remember that day because dr. birx was really angry and she actually con fronted me and said do you know who created those graphs? did you work on that? i said, well, you know that there has been an effort to manipulate the data, to downplay this virus, and so i can only control what the vp, control somewhat what the vp slide said and there are times that he would have a slide that i didn't know where it had come and it was the communications team and i operated on facts and so i would literally run down the stairs in the west wing to her office, shut the door and say did you make this? she would be like, no. i thought you made it. i said, no. we would run around trying to figure out who did. this is the chaos of this response and so it doesn't matter when you're trying to do the work and trying to do the right thing. you're just never going to be able to alter that. >> olivia troy, thank you very much for your time. >>> ahead, re

we have seen people like scott atlas who is widely discredited from the rest of the medical and scientificent trump. and so i'm not surprised at all that there were other voices who were advising president trump and creating their own alternative set of reality. look, i understand if there are different policy decisions that you reach, but you have to start with the same set of facts, and i guess i'm not surprised we're seeing more than 400,000 people dead in the u.s. how this happened. >> how do you see the practical impact of that, how it trickled down, how that from the white house trickled down into everyday americans being impacted by covid? >> we've seen all the way through this response what happens when we don't have a national strategy, and very critically when there isn't a consistent message between public health officials and our elected leaders, that that level of mixed messaging led to people not knowing who to believe and public trust was really eroded. public health hinges on that public trust. but i do want to say in defense of dr. birx who, by the way, i don't know person

i know now watching some of the tapes that certainly scott atlas brought in parallel data streams. don't know who else was part of it. >> how does that track? >> i remember that day because dr. birx was really angry and she had actually confronted me and said, do you know who created those graphs? did you work on that? and i said, well, you know that there has been an effort to manipulate the data to downplay this virus, and so i can only control what the vp, somewhat control, i would say, what the vp's slides said. honestly there were times when he would end up with some crazy slide that i didn't know where it had come from. it had come from the communications team. and i operated on facts and he knew that. so i would literally run down the stairs in the west wing to her office, shut the door and show it to her and say, did you make this? and she would be like, no, i thought you made it. i said, no. so then we would both run around trying to figure out who did. i mean, this is the chaos and -- of this response. so it doesn't matter when you're trying to do the work and you're tryi

well in the interview that she had where, you know, particularly when situations, when people like scott atlasame into the white house who essentially was the antithesis of what she was trying to do, and it made it very, very difficult for her. that's what i think she meant when she said it was a terminal event. >> she said that there were two streams of data moving to the desk of president trump. in addition she said there was no full-time team inside the white house working on the coronavirus, two alarming bits of information i hadn't heard before. # what was your reaction to that? >> well, you know, i lived through it with her. so it was -- shaking my head saying, yes, right. first of all, there wasn't a full-time team. i mean, she was getting up at 3:00 in the morning, collecting the data, presenting it to people. but i think the important point that she made that really is critical was the two opposing forces because she was trying to get information into the president on a regular basis, but the president was getting information from other sources. you know, friends on the outside who wo

this has been a strategy out of the white house, the president, his former adviser scott atlas constantlybecause of the greed of doctors and nurses who have been nothing short of heroic in this pandemic. >> and you have been very vocal about the vaccine rollout or lack thereof. how enraging is it for you as a medical professional but also as an american to see the federal government bunghchle so importa for american health and overall for the economy? >> yeah, you know, i'm enraged for all sorts of reasons. one of them is i really thought, and call me naive, i thought that we would get the vaccine stuff right. yes, but bungled the testing and protective equipment. but i thought "operation warp speed" would get the vaccines right and it looked like they were on a great track. but they did not think through the last mile of getting vaccines into people's arms and now we're at 4 million people vaccinated literally two weeks after the president promise that had 20 million would be vaccinated by last week. we have tens of millions of doses sitting in freezers that need to get into people's arm

because of the miss management of the pandemic is awful, the herd immunity by like scott atlas and others toll. so i think we've got to get through the next couple of months. they are very, very hard. a lot of people will be infected and die. our federal government has completely taken their eye on the the ball. but we have to get through this time and protect each other and i think help is coming from vaccines and a more kpentsent federal government. >> when we heard about the u.k. variant being 70% more transmissible, we didn't get any new advice. there are things that people have been doing in masks that we shouldn't do any more in masks, like going to school or walking outside? >> yeah. so, more transmissible, true, it doesn't actually change the public health message. in fact it just makes it that much more urgent that we do it. the virus still transmits in the same way. it still transmits when people gather largely indoors and not wear masks. that is where things really get us into trouble. and so high quality masks are really important and we've not done much to make mask wearing a

examples, the first is twitter is a suppression throughout this pandemic of 510 scientists like doctor scott atlas having lockdowns. we can now compare florida to new york, texas to california and see the only thing lockdowns were effective in doing was crushing the american people and improving the bottom line of a big tech and i would also say the suppression of the "new york post" story about hunter biden's laptop which turned out to be 100% true and accurate. they suppressed that and all the while a ridiculous life about it being russian disinformation ran rampant on its platform. of those were done in their interest and against the interest of the american people. ashley: you know, you also say twitters safety rules have nothing to do with safety, but have to do with profits. what benefit does twitter get when it cuts out millions of people who have a conservative view? they are losing users. >> oh, i mean, they have gained politically enormously. when you look at the choices they are making, they all accrue to their own benefit. of the biggest critics of section 2030, which protects them fro