. >> ifill: let me ask you and scott barthelmass as well, starting with you, cindy erickson, how does this compare to other disasters in terms of magnitude in this region? >> you know what, this has just been incredible. many have compared it to the '93 flood and, for the american red cross, it certainly is a huge disaster because it's not just in one area, it's in multiple areas. so the red cross, i mean, we plan for disasters 365 days a year, 24-7, over 9% of our workforce are volunteers, and, so, we are able to deploy at a moment's notice. so to be able to stand up, numerous, a dozen shelters within a couple of days is pretty remarkable of the community and the community's resilience. >> ifill: scott barthelmass, how does it compare for a small town on a big river? >> you know, our district covers 82 square miles, and we actually serve multiple communities, eureka being the main city and the center of our district. and there is flooding in 1982, substantial flooding in 2008. but we have not seen devastation like this before, and i think, as the cruxes alluded and others, the flood