scott bellski is at adobe, also the co-founder of an online platform to showcase and discover creative work. and executive creative director of wayfair, largest online retailer of home furnishings and decor. good to see both of you guys. it's fun to have you both here because you both started your companies, grew them and then sold them to public companies, so you have similar experiences. let's get to the first question. it's about taxes. sorry, taxes. it's coming up. >> i think the main question i would have is how to make sure you're covering all the bases you need to have in terms of legality with taxes. i have an attorney and i have a financial person, but i'm not really sure i'm doing everything i need to do. >> this just gets to the point of hiring people that you can trust. and how do you find them? you can't just find any attorney, any accountant. >> i've been through this in a very interesting way. i had just a sort of general tax adviser/accountant. then i found out that there are people who specialize in industries. so i hired somebody that specialized in the manufacturing