let's bring back our panel, rachel, tom, scott bolden.estion, should these women be allowed to tell their stories freely, without any legal consequences? >> i think women should always be allowed to tell their story. that's a constitution right. i think that we need to always operate with wisdom is to check with elected officials because it is possible that someone could be falsely accused. the accuser could reap free publicity for that. we need to protect legal rights. i have a daughter, a wife. we all have people that we love that could be in this position. they deserve to be protected. at the same time, we need to protect our elected officials, too, from frivolous or false claims i'm not saying that this is in this instance, i'm just saying we need to use wisdom so that our government officials can do their job and run our country effectively without getting bogged down in legal cases all the time. >> at the end of the day, this isn't about affairs. and there's no sense that his base would even care about any affairs. this is about int

let's get into all of this with "wall street journal" reporter, democratic strategist and scott boldendeputy independent counsel in the bill clinton whitewater investigation. great to see all of you. >> good evening. >> laura: kim, let's start with you on this. this is wild. so we've got mccabe, who reportedly was investigating, or wanted to investigate jeff sessions for what he said about his contacts with the russians. this took a wild turn today. >> yeah. well, isn't it a coincidence that this story leaks just as you have a number of senate democrats that are trying to revive this whole argument that they made months ago that sessions misled them. of course, that was a bunch of nonsense. he was very honest that he had forgotten that he had bumped into a russian ambassador at some event, that he misspoke. but now we find out that at the bequest of two democratic senators, the fbi went so far as to investigate whether or not sessions had lied in front of congress, which is astonishing to think that the fbi was doing this. >> laura: now, sol wisenberg, i want to go to you here. when i