wise and bargained in the studio with me in d.c., democratic strategist in washington attorney scott bolden. scott, you have experienced both on the defense and prosecution side, most of the file. if you're not a practicing attorney, people think, that is nice, it is like "dear diary," but talk about, and your own practice, when you look at my most of the file, honestly, politics out of it for a moment. people who write to my most of the file, go. >> it is fundamental go to the litigation whether you are in the government or white-collar. to me, my memos to the file are factual. they are facts that you want to make memorable. i don't know whether they are self-serving but i will tell you this. we highlight points that are takeaways from those meetings. the fbi, these were pretty standard notes, if you will. you could read and do whatever you want to read into them. in the end, it is all about the facts. if you want to put in the various overlay to it, then that's not going to be helpful, may be politically but in a prosecutor -- >> laura: nefarious, he would get his point of you out by goin

he is a democratic strategist and attorney, scott bolden. and byron york. we have a lot to get to tonight. byron, i want to start with you. very interesting that michael: who was kind of chased down the street today with that jacket of his, i don't know. men in puffy jackets. we don't like it. don't wear a puffy jacket. they catch up with him eventually but it's on the phone with don lemon, the reporter from abc. why is he going to media outlets that are fairly hostile to the president at this point? what do you think? >> it's a good question. to some degree, there are a lot of people in the white house who communicate with the president through the media. they are trying to send him a message to the media, through the media. one of the things about cohen, if he talks about the hardship this has been on him and his family come obviously one of the issues here is if he were charged with a crime, would he cooperate and would he be a bigger part of the mueller investigation? these are all messages that are flying around as he talks tonight. >> laura: this is p

scott bolden, when the fbi knocks on the door and says, hello, thanks for your phone. sit down and put up your feet. it is worry some. >> not just my office but home and total. remember, michael coen has been the most aggressive defender of trump. he has swag and attitude this is a humbling experience. before my republican friends blame mull ther is delegated to the u.s. attorney another trump are republican appointee who -- had this h to review this along with a federal judge. whatever they have on cohen or bank froud they got a lot. >> this started as some time russian collusion investigation. sounds disturbing. russian collusion. my gosh. now we're looking lieu lawyers hotel room and daughters and his house and his office and electricing for porn star -- the democrats were complaining and the republicans were not complaining when an investigation in white water a land beal ends up in a blue dress. now the dem the kras are salivating over inpriority that might have been paid off by a lawyer. odd deal. >> republicans who may be salivating, also. as a former prosecutor

scott bolden. with me in washington, sol wisenberg. cute and cuddly as always. deputy independent counsel. scott. i am teasing. good to see all of you. let's start with you. when we see an entire federal program either struck down or in this case a decision invalidated in 90 days if the judge isn't satisfied, it will be invalidated. that's a lot of power for one unelected district court judge residing in washington, d.c. >> that's right. he isn't the first one. he's the third in the country, as you mentioned, in your opening. judge alsup in san francisco and a judge in brooklyn. what's interesting to note for your viewers is that there was a federal judge in maryland who ruled the opposite way. what's wrong with the whole scheme is that one district judge is now overruling basically another district judge. this nationwide junctions inviting litigants. they are running to the most liberal jurisdictions in america. northern district of california, eastern district of new york, and district of columbia. that's not how our courts were meant to be. our courts were mea

tonight, scott bolden, democratic strategist. derek hunter, and bre patent. scott, does the g.o.p. have any real chance? >> as long as donald trump in the white house, the republicans don't have a chance in regard to the 2018 2018 election. while this congressional five districts may be leaning republican and have conservatives, 45% are independents and republican moderates. that gives them a chance. every day donald trump tweets every day. passes a policy with 65% of the country disagree. the key for democrats is finding a great candidate with a great public service resume. one that can build coalitions. i think it will stay democratic. >> shannon: derek, does esty do them a favor by stepping away? weber runs is not running with having to talk about the scandal. >> they are so going to have to talk about the scandal. what congresswoman esty did, in her statement, she wrote "in congress and workplaces across the country, we need to make stronger workplace protections." she takes claim and says but it's everybody's fault. that is the attitude. we saw with harvey weinstein. it's horr

democratic strategist scott bolden, jamie weinstein's "national review" online, jamie weinstein, politicalaldwell. welcome to all of you. i want to play what republican congressman john ratcliff had to say, former us attorney, here is what he had to say about where this goes. >> andrew mccabe according to fbi's own investigators was not truthful under oath. the same thing other folks like michael flynn and george papadopoulos and rick gates are currently being charged for so you would expect andrew mccabe would be treated the same under the law. >> will he be? will there be a, referral? >> i don't think so. was more dangerous is the lawsuit against the president or doj for this unjust firing, the attacks on his character by donald trump, that is the thing to look for. he was fired 26 hours before his pension, the investigation report was released then. that is a whole lot of problems for andrew mccabe. the constant attacks by donald trump drove the investigations which we didn't fly and simply had a lack of memory or could not recall facts that is not enough to criminally indict someone or

democratic strategist scott bolden. jamie weinstein. fox news political analyst gianno caldwell. to play little bit more about republican congressman john ratcliffe had to say. he's a former u.s. attorney himself. here's what he had to say about where he thinks this goes. >> andrew mccabe, according to the fbi's own investigators was less than truthful under oath. the same thing other folks like michael flynn and george papadopoulos and rick gates are currently being charged for. you would expect that andrew mccabe would be treated the same under the law. >> shannon: scott, do you think there will be a criminal referral for andrew mccabe? >> i don't think so. what's more dangerous here's the lawsuit, civil lawsuit against the president or doj for this unjust firing. that is, they pretexts, the attacks on his character, by donald trump. that's the thing to look for. he was fired 26 hours before his pension vested. this investigation report was released then. that's a whole lot of problems for her and her mccabe. i will be honest with you. the constant attacks by donald trump certa

republican congressman sean duffy of wisconsin and washington attorney and democratic strategist, scott bolden. republican congressman john duffy of wisconsin and scott, i want to go to you first. do you think that this is really justified? physical in the right direction? what in the world with ukraine have to do with the russia collusion on the election of 2016? >> as a former prosecutor and someone who defended people in the clinton investigations, let me just say this, not only think is going in the right direction, but if the republicans who have authorized it. not just rosenstein but the original order that was given to mueller for his investigation was to investigate collusion or coordination between these parties, either before or after the mueller investigation. rosenstein, even under the code of federal investigations, they are just following where the evidence takes them. >> jason: i want to go to the graphic. the original letter that rod rosenstein sent to mueller authorizing his investigation, there are three points to this. if we can put it up on the screen. number two on this po