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scott gottlieb will help us sort through it all.t's all just ahead on "face the nation." >>> good morning. welcome to "face the nation." saturday's norfolk southern derailment in springfield, ohio, was the fourth train derailment in ohio in the last five months, including the one in east palestine that spilled toxic chemicals. norfolk southern tells cbs news no one was injured and no toxic substances were on boardtrn iol incident. the ceo of norfoou ct t testify before a senate panel on thursday. we want to begin the show with democratic senator joe manchin, who joins us from charleston, west virginia. good morning to you, senator. i want to start on -- >> good morning, margaret. thanks for having me. >> i want to start on that derailment. the president last week praised bipartisan railway safety legislation that would have new rules for trains carrying hazardous materials, increase fines for safety violations, phase in newer cars. will you vote for it? is that sufficient? >> yes. i'm going to be supporting that. we need to do it ba

scott gottlieb. welcome back. good to see you. >> good morning. >> dr. g you to sort of give us some context here, because i know you've said in the past on this program that we will likely never know the origin of covid-19, short of finding the exact animal that carried the virus or a smoking gun proving that it accidentally leaked out of the lab. you said both theories were plausible. has anything changed that makes you more certain now? >> well, look, i think there's enough information in the public domain to create a presumption this could have come out of a lab, maybe a strong presumption. we have seen some incremental reporting, and there's classified information that hasn't been made public, that even congress hasn't seen in this instance, and i think based on that premise the likelihood this came out of a lab we may never be able to prove it with certainty, we should start behaving like it did come out of a lab and take steps. there's a lot of things that happened around the labs in crea sppy condition. wuhan, that they were doing high risk resea

during the trump administration, then-fda commissioner scott gottlieb suggested at a political conference requirements might be in the offing. scott: there is a reference somewhere in the standard of identity to a lactating animal. and an almond doesn't lactate. stephanie: but, last week, the biden administration's fda announced draft guidance that says plant-based alternatives are allowed to continue to call themselves milk. the reasoning? could i just get a medium oat milk latte, please? that's already what most of us call the the latest statistics from 2017 show some 90% of americans still buy cow's milk, but the plant-based options have been drinking up market share. it's now a more-than-$2.5 billion industry and accounts for 16% of all milk sales in the u.s. a new ad campaign by the company silk even riffs on the milk mustache. nicole: i think that's a huge win for the plant-based food industry, and it's a long time coming. stephanie: nicole negowetti, vice president of policy and food systems at the plant based foods association, agrees with the fda's decision allowing alternatives

we'll talk to former fda commissioner scott gottlieb in the latest battle against obesity. ugly session after fed chair powell says rates are likely to be higher than anticipated soft landings out the window after this the dow is down 549 points let's get to kristina partsinevelos with more. >> markets are reacting to the downside the dow is the worst performer right now, driven by fed chair jay powell there was the more aggressive stance he said three main things, he's prepared to includes the pace of rate hikes to fight inflation. the ultimate level of rates will likely be higher, and three, the restrictive policy will be around for some time gina just spoke about that, but those are three reasons you're seeing some of the drive to the downside, and while financial names like j.p. morgan, goldman sachs, tipping the economy into a recession, and you're seeing j.p. morgan down 3%. the yields on the ten-year treasury note, we often talk about it, it's seen as a sign of sentiment on the economy you can see just before 11:00 a.m., back down at 3.96. here at the nasdaq, which i

continue to , i guess, continue to encourage the very research that led to globalarch tha sufft scott gottlieb used to be the fda commissioner, butof more importantly, he's on the board of pfizer andir more ironically, he's chair ofes their regulatory and compliance committee. >> we're still stuck on the debate about whether it w was or wasn't a lab leak. i don't think we're going to prove that. i think we should workity that i on the assumption that there's leak and a probability that it was a lab leak and start putting in placed s the kinds protections that we need. >> the occ cost benefiteed an analysis, just what weot need. >> what another lab leak sobig h that pfizer and big pharma canar make billions more .more of our and we can lose more of our people, our wealth, our freedom. i mean, this is just tranotic and transparent at this pointck because we knew going back to twenty eighteen that the luján lab was a big problem . bueyt scot want gottliebts g wae back for another bite of the apple because we'll have new controls in place. now remember who is a city that houses a large number of g

and then this is where i found the report very interesting because what he found out is that scott gottliebhard and twitter complied from a doctor about natural immunity but on the same dayhat doctors tweet w censod soere mine why is this important? what is consequential about the date? three days after the military vaccine mandate came out this atruth was talks into a narrative tyantedut ere to force the vaccine on everybodyhen y have natural immunity or not. i don't think congress does i think every origin to be fre speech from the constitution. such a censor a congressman but disable all comments fm constituents and those of the voices that they squelch. and then do you have any comments? >> . >> we foundust yesrday a tweet from the valid the oject where they talk explicitly aut censoring storie of te vaccine side effes and other true stoes that they felt encouraged. so the potential truth. the use the word truth three times and what is notable it is the fundamental misunderstanding of the misinformation complex they feel they cannot handle a difficult truth so they think they need remin

this is why, i found alex berenson's report very interesting because what he found out is that scott gottlieb worked hard and twitter complied, it looks like, to censor a tweet from a doctor about natural immunity. guess what? on the same data that docto the's tweet wasensored, so were my betweens. tweets, on naturalal immunity. why is thi important wh is consequentialbout the date? this is three days after the military vaccine mandate came out and a week before the federal vaccine mandates came out. thisroof was toxic to a narrative that the pfizer was spreading, that joe biden wanted out there so that he could force the vaccine on everybody whether you' had nural iunity or not. now, i actually concern to you guys might not agree with me on this, i n't think the press gets special privileges on the first amendment. don'think congress does. i think every american by virtue of beingn american has the right to free speech enshrined in the constitution. so i'm not so much worried that th, hay censored a congress congressman, but they disabled all the cments from my constituents. those ar the voi

scott gottlieb about some of them.t they can cause, but the risks are outweighed by the risks of being very obese, that comes with a lot of risks too the question is should you be losing this -- should you be losing this to five or ten pounds to fit into an outfit for a big event you're going to or should this be to people who, yeah, the risks far outweigh because they really need to lose a lot of weight? >> i think there is also a concern. i have a concern, if you got to stay on these for a long period of time, that means there is going to be a lot of supply out there for people to give to somebody, it becomes currency in a way. is there a way to monitor that, i don't know. >> recreational use of other drugs. >> google is -- you don't get a really painful injection unless you're sick and you need it. >> it is not a painful injection, though. i've never done it, but i know people who have. >> it is a needle. >> but people say -- >> botox isn't either? you have needles in your forehead >> i had diabetes when i was pregn