we met with scott guthrie, and then two weeks later, read in the newspaper that scott guthrie is now in charge of their crm business. i'm like that would have been good to know ahead of time. then i kind of was like, you know, maybe the new microsoft is actually the old microsoft. look, these were the mid-managers during that era. now they've moved up, and the culture is back. >> in the old microsoft under steve palmer, who has worked with me at harvard was a bit of a monday opp lift. i think your linkedin complaint would indicate you think that could happen again. >> well, i think that you see, you know, the commissioners in europe have also stated there is a very sensitive acquisition because microsoft has stated publicly -- >> at that deutsche bank conference, which i read. you're right. >> what did they say, jim? >> they said they intend to use it to take all the business? >> is that fair and is that legal? >> it was called dumb. if they had general counsel there, it probably wouldn't have been said. >> the europeans also read that. and other software companies like oracle and sa