citizens abroad without ever taking you to a courtroom but we're going to have scott horton give us his i guess you could say more professional opinion than someone who really has a legal mind and then we're also going to look at the case of two detainees from guantanamo bay that. the defense department reported as suicides although new autopsy reports make some of that evidence seem a little bit sketchy and also raise a lot of questions and we have some new developments on the hacktivist group anonymously to be talking about that yeah we're definitely going to give our viewers an update tonight about the lulz sec hackers that allegedly the fads have arrested and also it turns out that one of them may have been a mole a lot slick slower there thank you a lot of that's coming up next but that's going to do it now for the news from one of the stories we covered you can head on over to our last usa there you will find a story of of our intrepid team has been covering since the start about anonymous and the new struggles with the new law and we'll bring you much more on this in our seven p.

employed scott horton contributing editor for harper's magazine well from silencing critics a barrage of those at home president obama promised transparency when he came into office status of ministration is increasingly regarded as the worst on issues related to freedom of information so is that actually the case well that's the question that i posted jason leopold hearing earlier today and he is the lead investigative reporter actually out dot org here's this take. sure well you know first of all when obama came into office he made these promises you sign an executive order. promising to usher in a new error of open government transparency eric holder the attorney general. issued some new guidelines in march of two thousand and nine. what people seem to forget or may not even be aware of me not even aware of is that immediately after the administration released these memos these memos and the cia and the justice department's office of legal counsel prepared used for interrogation and torture the so-called torture memos and that was it the administration. had clampdown on releasing a

input scott horton contributing editor for harper's magazine all right well you just heard scott talk about the article by jeremy scahill in the nation magazine about the situation in yemen and president obama's personal interference to keep this independent journalism behind bars while jeremy joined me just about a half an hour i go we talked about the story and i first asked him why the world superpower the united states would have a vested interest in keeping some independent journalist in yemen behind bars so here's your nice take on. well the united states has been waging a covert war in yemen for a number of years in fact president obama really escalated back over or the first bombing of yemen that we know the president obama authorized was on december seventeenth two thousand and nine and the way it was reported in the press was that it was a yemeni strike and that thirty four al qaida members were killed in that strike and because of this journalist that's a lot higher going to the same taking photographs that are sending them to media outlets but ultimately the amnesty intern

democrat who ever said an unkind word about john yoo so joining me from our studio in new york is scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine scott thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess i want to break some of these issues down legally with you you've got the better legal mind and i do that's for sure but just overall what did you think of the speech yesterday. bad effort i give him a failing grade frankly a big disappointment remember all this starts started with a broad public demand picked up by newspapers around the country by members of congress by legal experts to release the o l c memorandum a fifty page memo that set out the legal policies for these targeted killings and we know that inside the justice department there was strong sentiment to do exactly that it appears that they were cold or wanted to do that there was pushback coming from the intelligence community and then as a compromise it was decided eric holder will go out said well we won't publish the memorandum but you know he'll give us a good solid synopsis of thi

asking for diplomacy in going to already joining me to discuss of course you are in new york is scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine scott thanks for joining me and we have a couple things that i want to break down tonight but first just overall i mean are you with me if you look at what's happening with iran if you look at this move by paul ryan in the budget if you look at mitt romney would you think towards russia feel like diplomacy is just couldn't be any farther away from these people's lives . so i'm with you absolutely i mean i think you know the united states had a long history through the nineteenth century first half of the twentieth century of using cautious diplomacy as a tool to meet national security needs i think what we've seen over the last over the last several decades but really especially over the last ten years is a deterioration of that tradition and we see that especially in congress where people all the way that they can muster for guns and bombs but nothing for diplomacy they want to pull back there and i thin

pakistani ty scott horton contributing editor for harper's magazine joins us now welcome to the show so do you expect any progress to come out of this meeting today . well we're never going to know from the public remarks and in fact i'm not even sure that they are of a particularly accurate characterization of what's going on in the background and we're dealing here with one of the most complex love hate relationship in the world today and another big problems is frankly the prime minister and his government and president zardari their control over the actual apparatus of government in pakistan is relatively weak you have the you have the military general staff and you have pakistani intelligence the i.s.i. as the interstate running things and there's a rather difficult complex relationship between them and we also have had a long history of the pakistani government the pakistani military saying no to the public with respect to drones but in fact secretly wink nod approving u.s. drone raids so i think one of the questions right now is how much is that situation changed and all the a