host: scott jaschick, what types of colleges look at the sat? guest: lots of colleges. generally the most competitive colleges, and many less competitive colleges don't. but a trend in recent years has been for colleges, even competitive colleges, to go test optional. this is a big concern of the college board. these colleges let students decide whether or not to submit scores. many students will look at what the average score is and decide whether to cement based on whether they are above or below -- to submit based on whether they are above or below. historically, low income students have done less well than upper-income students. years,cally, in recent black and latino students on average do not do as well as white and asian students. going test-optional tends to result in increases in applications from lacking the gene of students. host: what has been -- black and latino students. host: what has been the reaction from sat folks? guest: the college board is trying to make the sat more t, so they cannot exactly criticize that but they are saying that they have been th