joining me now, cnn political commentators ana navarro and scott jennings.h of you. a ana, are these guys deflecting from their own responsibilities when it comes to the pandemic, pointing fingers instead of taking the safety measures necessary? >> look, i think they're combining a couple of their favorite things, right? first, we know that along with golf and hunting, demonizing immigrants at the southern border is a favorite hobby of some of the republicans, elected republicans. couple that with this idea that they are freedom fighters against masks and mandates and passports and things that really don't exist, not from the federal government, and you have -- you've got the perfect storm. and they're using it to raise fear, to raise division, and to raise funds. that is where it gets very irresponsible, because -- and dangerous, because look, i am from florida, i live in florida. you can't tell me that the emergency rooms and icus in alachua county and dade county are full because of what's happening 2,000 miles away at the southern border. and let's talk

scoot "outfront" now is scott jennings and paul. scott, let me start with you. want to know because context does matter. these questions are important. back in early 2020, obviously before the delta variant, dr. fauci did say in an email the typical mask you buy in the drugstore is not really efi effective in keeping out virus which is small enough to pass through the material. do you think this suspension, scott, would have happened if the video was from a democratic lawmaker? >> no, i don't, and this is what us conservatives are bent out of shape is double standards. it's not just the fauci email you referenced but other respected people other than rand paul who are democrats or affiliated with democrats who said mich m michael said when you look at the cloth pieces they have limited impact and told cnn on a later interview we know today many of the cloth coverings people wear are not very effective. land rand paul is not on an island but he's hardly the only person raising these questions. fowhy does somebody like omicha can say this and when rand paul does,

cnn political commentators ana navarro and scott jennings, welcome to both of you.aking out against masks, trying to punish schools who require students and staff to wear masks. what do you see it? >> look, i think it's highly political. he's running for reelection next year. and we all know he's already posturing to be the republican nominee in 2024 should trump not run. and i think what's happened with ron desantis is, it's almost, you know, it's almost something that they inherited from donald trump, which is that when you make a mistake, you double down. you don't admit the mistake. you don't ask for forgiveness. you don't say you regret it. look, we're seeing in arkansas, for example, the republican governor there, asa hutchinson, saying he regrets having signed a law banning mask mandates, because of the delta variant. the delta variant is something nobody was expecting, nobody was predicting. so i think it gives him a reason to change his rhetoric, change his course of action. but because of what trump supporters and the people he's trying to play to in the b

. >> rosa, thank you very much, and i want to bring in anna navarro and scott jennings. don't know. that was sarcasm, they are feisty and opinionated, which is why you are here, we love you guys. anna, it's crazy, the battle over masks in schools. they are not letting up, even as cases and deaths are rising. why is it so hard for people to realize it's really, this is the best way to keep our kids safe now? >> don, because you know, they are, they are in zone where they think it's a crusade for personal freedom. and they just can't get away from it. and instead of looking numbers and the statistics, instead of looking at the rise in cases, the rise in hospitalizations and the rise if in deaths, they are doing things like listening to politicians who are exploiting the subject matter for political gain. which is, i frankly think, immorale and we are seeing more and more cruise lines like disney are saying, no, regardless of what you are telling us, politician ans we are going to require vaccinations and masks. and airlines are extending the -- the faa extended the mask ma

scott, of course it is. they don't trust, they don't trust us. whitehouse, they don't trust jen pataki to give actual real true the what's going on the deal, the pentagon, they want to go see for themselves. i think what was actually taking place on the ground. 7080 percent of americans wanted to see us out of afghanistan. there was no argument on that front at all, but to see how badly this withdrawal has gone. and how botched has been. i mean, i'm seeing reports today that by august 31st there still will probably be thousands of americans still stranded and they are stranded in afghanistan after we pull out . what are we going to do then? and i'm concerned that with the obviously isis, al qaeda being released from these prisons on the move and on the loose and afghan, a stand that we could see some really problematic things take place with those americans. that quite frankly, had been stranded and a very callous and cavalier way by the binding ministration. we weren't here nonstop calls about his mental capacity about how he has endangered thousands of not tens of thousands of american lives from members of