second, mengin and the spending the way i look at it, scott mentioned we are down 2% in all nine and expect to be down on other to .5%. about 4.5% over the years. generally spending is up 6% per year so you can see going down 2% is a huge cut relative to the long run. the third point is that in the budgets states are recommending that taxes for 2010 or increased by 24 billion. if you look historically we've seen how numbers at times of 14 or 15 billion but never a member of that magnitude. unfortunately as we go along i think what the governors are going to want to continue to cut budgets but they're going to be forced more and more to look unfortunately on the revenue side. most of this problem has come on the revenue side, either medicaid has been under control. if you look at detail there is a significant number of states that have seen revenues down between ten and 20% in terms of personal income tax revenues and actually for were five states over 20%. huge revenue falloffs. the only other comment i want to make is we are also headed for a cliff at some particular time this fundi