and that was determined that it might fill what had to be the chicago the scene and myself and scott mueller would head into one that may have. so did you understand since you while you as speciations are being called to this incident we knew that some form of critic lesson had occurred but at that point we didn't have a huge amount of information and when you use the term critical incident in this context or mean to you at that time an incident involving a police officer and potentially a civilian. that that could have caused harm so on may 25th of 2020. was to be ca. responding to calls of critical incidents within the city of minneapolis yes and so have you developed that is the p.c.a. a process for responding to those calls yes we have critical incident protocols. and when you arrived with the other agents at city hall that's. where the administrative offices of the police department are correct correct. and so that at some point. the. decision is made for my fil to go to the scene at 30th. and you an agent nearer than wait around or say at city hall correct correct. and when you were ou

. >> along with scott mueller? >> correct. >> and i just want to make sure you're not suggesting that the defense somehow put pieces of pills into that squad car? >> no, sir, i'm not suggesting that. >> and, in fact, it would have been the agents who were present to cut the seal on the squad car, correct? >> yes. >> all right. and the defense isn't necessarily allowed to touch or manipulate or do anything to that squad car? >> that is correct. >> so part of the overall investigation, again, included getting surveillance video from area businesses, right? >> correct. >> including the speedway across the street? >> yes, sir. >> and some of the video is of higher quality than others, right? >> that is correct. >> and then also identifying people who were present in obtaining cell phones of those, right? >> correct. >> and just lots and lots and lots of stuff that happened? >> yes, sir. ultimately when you first got involved in this case as the lead case agent, you had a very limited piece of information, right? >> yes

it was determined that myself, agent phil and agent xul scott mueller would report to city hall. we met at minneapolis city hall and determined that agent mike phil would have to go to the scene and myself and agent scott mule woehr head to room 100 at minneapolis city hall. >> so did you understand as to why as bca agents are being called to this incident? >> we knew that some form of critical incident occurred. at that point we didn't have a huge amount of information. >> when you say critical incident in this context, what did it mean to you at that time? >> an incident involving a police officer and potentially a civilian that could have caused harm. >> so on may 25th of 2020, was the bca responding to calls of critical incidents within the city of minneapolis? >> yes. >> and so had you developed that is the bca a process for responding to those calls? >> yes. we had critical incident protocols. >> and when you arrived at the other agents of city hall, that's where the administrative offices are, correct? >> correct. >> so then at some point the decisions made for mike phill t

. >> and you were not present at this time, it was scott mueller? >> correct. >> i just want to make sure you are not suggesting that the defense somehow put pieces of pills into that squad car. >> no, sir. i'm not suggesting that. >> itge would have been the ages that were present to cut the seal on the squad car, correct? >> yes. >> and the defense isn't necessarily allowed to touch or manipulate or do anything to the squad car. >> that is correct.ha >> so, part of the overall investigation, again, given surveillance videos from local businesses -- >> correct.th >> including the speedway across the street, and some of the video is of higher quality than others. >> hthat's correct. >> and identifying people that were present and obtaining the cell phones of those. >> correct. >> and just lots and lots of stuff that happened. >> yes, sir. >> ultimately, when you first got involved in this case as the lead case agent, you had a veryt limited piece of information, right? >> yes, sir. >> that was information that was from theon dispatch, information fr