i'm scott pattison, executive director of national association of state budget officers and with me is dr. raymond scheppach director of the national governors' association. today we are releasing a were fiscal report, which we do twice a year, and we've been doing this report well over 30 years now and on fortunately i have to report these are some of the worst numbers we have ever seen. for example, for the first time ever actual spending for the state is calling to decline this fiscal year, 09, and fiscal year ten, two years in a row. the last time this occurred and the only other time states actually had an actual outright decline in expenditure was 1983 and that was a little below the line about .7%. but me give you some numbers. state spending is estimated to decline 2.2% this fiscal year 09 which i think everyone knows for most states in this at the end of this month, june 30th. in ten we are projecting state expenditures will have an actual outright to equine of 2.5% and again that's significant both because this is two years in a row the first time but also these numbers are m