scott perry and mastriano. the democrat-led committee said ties to january 6th are particularly notable. and warrant further investigation. in the days after trump's call with doj officials, mastriano wrote election fraud is real and prevalent in pennsylvania, laying out his evidence of fraud, which has been repeatedly debunked and adding, this election is an embarrassment to our nation.

details emerge about his role in trump's plot to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. >> scott perryou. >> reporter: perry has said he's unaware of any gop lawmakers playing a role in the capitol insurrection. >> i don't know of any. we're here and open for the investigation. if people are culpable, they need to be -- justice needs to prevail in that regard. >> reporter: but a report from the democrat-led senate panel says trump allies, including perry, have notable ties to january 6th. and these ties warrant further investigation. >> how does the president incite an attack that was preplanned and already under way before his speech concluded? >> and the house select committee investigating january 6th wants phone records of several lawmakers, including perry. >> jeff clark. >> reporter: perry admitted introducing him to jeffrey clark to led the justice department civil division. he attempted a near coup of justice department leadership. >> jeffrey clark became donald trump's big lie lawyer. >> reporter: the same day trump told doj officials to just say the election was corrupt and l

it's about the process. >> reporter: it's unclear if the committee will want to talk to scott perry. n the hill. he said he doesn't like to talk to cnn. >> perry introduced him to jeffrey clark. how did he know him? >> reporter: we asked multiple times. they have not responded to our questions. even in the reports, doj officials say it was never clear how this congressman from pennsylvania had this relationship with jeffrey clark, how it came into facilitate introductions to trump. >> something that would be nice to find out. sara murray, great report. thank you. >> if only there were a committee investigating this. donald trump continues to push lies about the election that joe biden won. some of his biggest supporters are taking a slightly different yet no less duplicitous approach. here is minority whip steve scalise refusing to answer the simple question, does he believe the election was stolen? >> i hope we get back to what the constitution says. but clearly the number states they didn't follow those legislatively. >> so you think the election was stolen? >> what i said is there

that guy, scott perry, sitting member of u.s. congress aiding the president in his seditious plot. you have perry, trump, the coup lackeys. all of this created the disinformation ecosystem necessary for trump to incite almost 1,000 americans to breach the capitol in a violent attempt to subvert democracy by stopping a free and fair election. >>> we have news into that day. the house committee investigating january 6th has issued subpoenas to the organizers of the stop the steal rally which preceded the riot at the capitol. that's in addition to subpoenas they already issued with 11 individuals for planning the pro trump rallies before the attack. again, a lot more detail about what we knew was happening, which was donald trump really, really, really, really, really, really, really wanted a coup and enough people wanted to help him but not enough. even more disturbing and how close we came to catastrophe on january 6th is the fact that the republican party has more or less become a coup supporting party. we all know donald trump obviously does not believe in democracy and if given th

so that guy scott perry, sitting member of u.s. ding the president in his seditious plot. you've got perry, got the president, you've got kolasky's and meadows and clark. you've got the committee's report concludes, all these efforts in turn, graded the disinformation in ecosystem necessary for trump to incite almost 1000 americans to preach like capitals in a violent attempt to -- by subverting election. we also have news tonight, the house committee investigating january six has issued subpoenas to the organizers of the stop the steal rally which preceded the riot at the capitol. now, that's in addition to subpoenas they already issued to 11 of individuals affiliated with the planning of pro trump rallies before the attack. so, again, a lot more detail about what we knew is happening, which is donald trump really wanted a coup. and a bunch of people really wanted to help him, but not enough. but in some ways, even more disturbing than the revelations about how close we came to catastrophe on january six, is the fact that right now

two, what if people like representative scott perry -- who harry mentioned. perry emerges in this part. we had written a story in january saying he was a key player but he comes out in this report strong as somebody who was happening the white house create some sort of map to keep trump in power. he was also a sitting member of congress. so you have to wonder if there is not more report asking not more information to be gathered there. it does seem like the senate committee is on it. but it will take a while for them to gather those facts. >> and we will keep pursuing that line of questioning. thank you for sharing it with us. katie benner. harry will itman thank you for starting us off. jonathan lemere is sticking around. >> when we come back, much, much more on this blockbuster report. senate judiciary chairman dick durbin will be our guest. where does the investigation go from here. >>> also, joe biden is out touting covid-19 vaccines, well, they work and pushing more employers to push their employees to get shots. >>> also, good news regarding vaccines and

people like the congressional committee chairman and congressman scott perry from pennsylvania. there is an entire chapter about scott perry and senate judiciary committee report about january 6th, the planning into it and republican donors that funded this thing and also fund republican members of congress. there is so much here that needs to be reality is, the enemy is truly within. the enemy is and the house of representatives right now. there are people who helped plan this, coordinate this. we have the open question about what members of congress help give recorecon. there are two things congress needs to do. number one, they need to act on new enforcement authority and give themselves the tools to enforce their oversight in realtime. they need to pass something that gives them fast track authority with the courts and number two, there is something called inherent contempt where they can throw steve bannon in jail now and force him to sit there until he provides the documents, emails and testimony. he might get criminal contempt and be prosecuted. i want a process that ensu

they had a sense it might include scott perry of pennsylvania. they had a sense he asked jeff clark to come to the white house to help with legal issues and to be a voice for the justice department. they were never really sure exactly what was going on. i think the committee will have to start interviewing other witnesses, including witnesses from the white house side, to get a complete picture. >> we just spoke with sheldon whitehouse, who is on the committee. he raised the prospect that jeff clark, who is so in the bull's eye of this report and who has been referred for potential discipline to the d.c. bar because of what the committee discovered about him, senator whitehouse said mr. clark might not have been sort of intellectually up to the task he was trying to pull off here. he might have been put up to it. this was an area of law he didn't know anything about. he may have been essentially a vessel for other people who were trying to use him and his position to get this done. does that resonate at all with what you have reported thus far in

it was recommended that scott perry be investigated. how would the sitting committee look into a sitting member of congress? >> they have the power to ask them to testify. they should use their powers in the same way they have subpoena power. if they don't use it and don't enforce it, then it's meaningless for them to have it. they just need to start asking these questions. i also think that it's up to the department of justice to start a criminal investigation and looking at the role of so many members of congress who participated in either giving tours of the capitol building that could have helped the insurrectionists to gain access as well as those who spoke and riled the group on, by urging them to stop the election by entering the building itself. there is a lot to be done to keep democracy going as we have always known, free and fair elections. >>> next, crisis averted for now. the senate has raised the debt limit to december. >>> also ahead, banned. again, that texas abortion bill back in effect. one part of the gop's bigger pla

scott perry and mastriano.ocrat-led committee said ties to january 6th are particularly notable. and warrant further investigation. in the days after trump's call with doj officials, mastriano wrote election fraud is real and prevalent in pennsylvania, laying out his evidence of fraud, which has been repeatedly debunked and adding, this election is an embarrassment to our nation. featuring rudy giuliani and trump by phone spreading election lies. >> this was, very sad to say it, this election was rigged and we can't let that happen. >> he went to organize buses at the rally in d.c. while he condemned the violence later that day. >> i join with all the other americans in condemning what happened at the capitol. it should never have happened and it's unacceptable. >> video footage confirming he and his wife passed through police lines at the u.s. capitol. mastriano said police lines shifted during the day and no evidence emerged showing him inside the capitol. he called the report biased and inaccurate. it is ano

it also shows that there are members of congress including representative scott perry -- the report probably raises more questions than it answers, but what it shows is the one justice department official who seemed to want to participate in this plan, he was told and he told others that he was doing it because representative scott had asked him -- so it raises more questions than answers. there is a reason to continue to ask questions. >> can i ask you, how can this investigation right now, how can it be that when you talk about executive privilege, can they completely exonerate trump but then leave his other individuals that are being targeted open for investigation more fully? >> i think that the executive privilege has been somewhat damaged already because the justice department ruled that former justice department officials under trump were able to possibly. and former president trump did not push back on those interviews. for example, the justice department officials who participated in a january 3rd meeting -- worked to overturn the results of the election. and mark meadows was in mee

his allies inexuding scott perry of pennsylvania participated in the doj pressure campaign. policy of investigating election fraud claims after certification to avoid politicizing the department. based on the report, the committee may suggest criminal prosecutions. meanwhile republicans issued their own findings based on the same testimony and concluded that the former president was concerned about electionic integrity in general and followed the advice of doj officials. former president trump is instructing his former aides and allies not to comply with subpoenas from the select committee investigating the january 6th capitol attack. that's according to reporting by politico and then confirmed by nbc news. in a letter reviewed by politico, a trump attorney directs former aide dan scavino, former official kash patel, former chief of staff mark meadows and former adviser steve bannon to hold back any documents about the ex-president's white house work and to refuse to testify about his official duties. the letter claims the committee is seeking materials that are covered by e

scott perry and mastriano, but they can't do it in their own capacities. the democratic-led senate judiciary committee says mastriano's ties to january 6th are particularly notable and warrant further investigation. in the days after trump's call with doj officials mastriano wrote to hon donoghue. election fraud is proposal in pennsylvania laying out his evidence of fraud which has been repeatedly debunked and adding this election is an embarrassment to our election. he already held an election in pennsylvania in november featuring rudy giuliani and trump by phone spreading election lies. >> this was a very sad to say it, this election was rigged and we can't let that happen. >> reporter: he went on to organization buses to travel to trump's january 6th rally in d.c. while he condemned the violence later that day -- >> i join with all the other americans in condemning what happened in the capitol. who happened today. >>> never have happened. it's unacceptable. >> reporter: the senate report says he and his wife took part in the january 6th insurrection wit

scott perry of pennsylvania, a republican. your report goes into detail about the role of a u.s. congressman played in trying to push the lies. >> well, and the president even referred to that at one point, that if we couldn't get the job done in other quarters, he had friends in congress who were going to carry the water for him. and there were others who were involved in it. and players coming from all sorts of different places for the president. but most of their claims were just as preposterous as rudy giuliani's claims. some inspired by giuliani. that's what the president was basing his case on. when people in the department of justice says we haven't seen any evidence and the president's retort was well, you don't watch the internet as closely as i do, that's what the president's source was and he grabbed any straw he could find that might suggest he won the election when clearly he did not. >> you're working on this, some of your other colleagues are working on a deal for a short-term postponement of the issue of whether or not the united states will default on its debt, r

they will ask about congressman scott perry who played a role in bringing jeff clark into the white house'ser circle. they want to know were there any other members of the congress playing a role in the leadup to january 6th to try to lay the legal foundation for reversing the outcome of that election. they will have so many questions. it is the first time clark has answered questions under oath from lawmakers since january 6th happened. i can't overstate how big a deal it is. >> one of the things that is interesting about what we're going to watch unfold in these hearings is that part of it is about accountability. part of it is about understanding what happened so that it never happens again. as the curtain is pulled back, as we have a greater understanding of what transpired, do you think that any of that impacts what we are seeing locally? do you think there are people who have been ignited by what has happened on the national stage? we're going to watch what happens and all of a sudden change their minds? i mean, how does that information trickle down? >> alicia, in short, it does not.

. >> also trump allies including republican congressman scott perry of pennsylvania participated in the doj pressure campaign. trump forced the resignation of u.s. attorney bj pac for investigating but not substantiating election fraud claims in georgia. and the doj deviated from the long standing policy of investigating election fraud claims after certification to avoid politicizing the department. republicans issued their own findings based on the same system concluding the former president was concerned about election integrity in general, and followed the advice of doj. >> i mean, come on, willie, this is a joke. they were worried about -- >> it only gets worse. >> you had donald trump's own people that were in charge of cyber security saying this was the safest election. this was the cleanest election in the history of the united states. even in the states where he lost, they've had one recount after another recount after another recount. there's no evidence. even rudy giuliani when he went into a federal courtroom in pennsylvania and knew he couldn't lie to a federal judge or he m

representatives scott perry, pennsylvania state senator, doug masteriano and kleat mitchell.rts in his effort to overturn the presidential election. how vital this is an investigative sort of principle. is it to sort of run down all the accomplices to what was clearly a white paper, black and white, the eastman memo laid out which states were to be targeted we have the call, some of that being put into motion. just talk about the importance of the role of trump's republican allies. i think it's critical to get to the bottom of what happened and to do that, we've got to interview and get testimony from all the key players. there are serious questions that had been raised about some members of congress and possible collusion with those who were organizing the mob. even days and weeks before the actual event of january 6th. hopefully that none of that pans out. hopefully it's innocent. but we don't know that. and it is the charge of the special commission on january 6th to know that and therefore, we need their cooperation or to compel their testimony if necessary. so that we ha

he names other names, representative scott perry, republican of pennsylvania, who at the time promoteds. it is unclear what things those are. but you have names, you have a path, you want to know if those men were complicit in an attempt to overturn the result of the election. >> surely, of course. and it is good to be with you, nicolle. i think those notes are staggering and of course the conversations that they reveal equally staggering. i think that the fact that the select committee is interviewing mr. donahue is an important development, really important step. we know that the department of justice was weaponized or at least the president attempted to weaponized department of justice to ultimately subvert the peaceful transfer of power. but there is a lot that we still don't know about the interactions between mr. rosen, mr. donahue and the white house. obvious delay one particular exchange that was revealed within the notes as it relates to mr. eastman is something that should shock the conscience of each and every american. but there is a lot more to find out and i expect that t

was it just this guy scott perry or were mull held members of congress involved. we don't know homs he talked to the white house or directly to the president, what the president was directing him to do. which is why it is imperative he come in and testify. he has no privileges to stand on, he has no means to defy the subpoena. he needs to get out there and testify the way that rosen and other department of justice officials have done already. >> or face criminal contempt, right? >> right. yeah, exactly. >> i want to come back to you, congresswoman, with something that our friend aaron blake writes. we will never know how coast we came but continue to sort through what became of january 6th. it's worth taking stock of what a few more pieces call into place might have meant on the pressure points that our democracy might reveal. i want to go through three of the inflection points he named. the justice department refuses to legitimatize trump's claim. this is what matt is talking about. clark reveils in that power struggle with rosen. pence refuses to use the ceremon

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