now from the house oversight committee, scott perry of pennsylvania. he did not take part in today's interview. he's getting the information that we're getting, maybe more. congressman, thanks for coming on. i want your initial reaction to the breaking news here. devin archer testified -- i shouldn't say testified. he wasn't under oath. he answered questions saying that more than 20 times that then vice president biden was on the phone with these foreign business people in the capacity where he said repeatedly that he was there to sell the brand said devin archer. hold open, congressman. we have devin archer on the right-hand side of your screen. let's listen in. he's leaving the courtroom right now. >> are you confident the committee will follow up on your testimony? >> when do you plan to report to federal custody? >> would you say that hunter biden called his staff about 20 times? >> did you see burisma did not need help from the bidens? >> can you talk about the biden brand? what does that mean? >> is the president compromised? >> what did you mean

fight with lauren boebert certainly didn't help. >> how much do you want to bet she's blocked scott perry's phone so he can't get the number, and he has to officially let her know. it's possible. just saying. don't you think? >> who knows. >> ali vitali, thank you for that. >>> artificial intelligence has officially entered the 2024 republican presidential primary. take a look at this. this is a side by side of miami mayor and presidential candidate, francis suarez on the left and then an ai generated bot that looks and sounds just like him on the right. the bot was developed by a super pac, tgs sos america, designed to answer questions about its name sake conservative mayor's agenda. our team asked, why the miami leader is running for president. take a bit of a listen to what ai suarez had to say? >> conservative mayor, francis suarez has transformed miami into a city thriving economically. under leadership, economic prosperity in more than ever. a testament to his effective leadership, and conservative principles. the miami model is working and t thyme for mayor francis suarez to bring it

giving conflicting reports about her status in the caucus right now, with some saying chairman scott perry has yet to actually notify green about her removal the caucus will likely revisit the issue of her membership when they return from recess next week >>> john kerry, the special envoy for climate change will be traveling to china next week the two super powers will attempt to restart climate negotiations, following a week that reported the highest temperatures ever recorded it had be the latest trip to championship by biden officials. janet yellen is currently in beijing, while antony blinken met with xi jinping last month >>> after the wagner group's open rebellion against the russian state, the twists and turns this this story continue yevgeny prigozhin was supposed to be in exile in belarus, fwlau country's president is suddenly walking that claim back. >> reporter: evgeny prigozhin again facing a perilous future the mercenary who led a mutiny in russia, so angering president putin was thought to be in exile if be in belarus but when nbc news was invited to the presidential palace i

congress is as i was coming over here, i saw a tweet representing scott perry was asked today about have they resolve impasse right now the house is stuck freedom some members freedom blocked the rule on some bill that all the republicans wanted us out there. scott perry has that been resolved and he says it doesn't matter that much that was that was just a messaging bill and the person tweeted a steak sherman's said well that's all the house is doing right now i've argued that's what the house done since 2011. the house has taken itself out of two large extent, legislating and big problem is, is phil is we're really congress is supposed to take all these ideas from the diverse country and i mean this book is just really incredible. it's the book i wish i have written. i'm glad phil had to put all of the work in to do it. he did a better job than i probably would have, but this is why it's so important. but i think so few people understand this what the role of congress is supposed to it's supposed to be representative who, come in, bring the views of their constituents to washington, th

so far, we have confirmation that rudy giuliani and lin wood, bernie kerik, scott perry, kenneth chesbrough and john eastman, so far we have confirmation that all of those people have not received target letters. again, so far. other individuals like jeffrey clark, who trump tried to appoint as the acting attorney general and the january of 2021, helping trump to overturn the results of the election. mr. clark's spokesman declined to comment. tonight, there's a particular focus on people like jeffrey clark and john eastman, and rudy giuliani. the lawyers in the trump bunch. part of a rant on his social media platform, truth social, he claimed tonight that lawyers and the legal system itself are under siege. he called that siege a gift from crooked joe biden, merrick garland, and deranged prosecutor jack smith. who knows what trump meant by that. if i were a lawyer, if i were a lawyer that would help trump to try and overturn the 2020 election, i might be keeping an eye on my mailbox. joining us now is barbara mcquade, the former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. barb, we a

genuine think marjorie taylor greene has blocked scott perry so we can reassure together the news.y, if that's not the answer, david, do expect her to get more clarity this week? what's your interpretation of what is going on between green and the freedom caucus? >> i don't know if we will get clarity from the freedom caucus. they don't like to speak a lot about their own internal membership. it's like the rules a fight club. marjorie taylor greene loves to grab headlines. we might get her side of the story. based on my experience in the house, i think this is about one thing. marjorie taylor greene's relationship with kevin mccarthy -- she decided to go all in with mccarthy to help him become speaker. mccarthy has used marjorie taylor greene as a bit of a tool within the caucus to be able to lever the freedom caucus and the harder right members. that is anathema to the entire existence of the freedom caucus. the freedom caucus exists because they are interested in hard ideology, not governing. they exist because of an innate destruct stove leadership whether was john boehner, paul

freedom caucus members say chairman scott perry made numerous attempts to reach or before and after theote. those attempts were all ignored. with me now, california congressman robert garcia. congressman, i wonder what this drama between green, freedom caucus colleagues, it tells you about the priorities of the far-right in congress? >> yeah, well thank you. look, first, the republican house members are in total disarray. it's just another example of that. obviously the freedom caucus kicking out marjorie taylor greene who is usually even more extreme than they are. it's just an addition to all the craziness of congress. the truth is, kevin mccarthy has empowered marjorie taylor greene. [inaudible] it's part of their party. that's a huge concern for us. i think marjorie taylor greene, unfortunately, has incredibly damaging views. radical views that need to be stopped. so i think this is just another example of kevin mccarthy not controlling his caucus. it's another example of marjorie taylor greene not being able to get along with anybody in the congress. not even her own colleagues who

look a handful of those could have difficult general ection races, scott perry, ana po lena luna ander re-election bid last year. >> those are the three targets already. >> that could potentially help them, but presumably mccarthy will be support them because he needs every vote he can to get the speakership. this is an effort to say we're standing behind the guys and the lawmakers here making kevin mccarthy's life difficult on some of these key issues, like on spending legislation that they have to deal with in the fall. >> not to be cynical, but we've been around washington. these groups on the right and left, they exist to make a point, but also to make money and spend money. >> the fact of the matter is, if moderate republicans had that much political heft there would be more of them. they are the ones most in trouble, the ones really pushing back on some of these agenda items that kevin mccarthy feels like he has >>> so, i mean, the political clout really lies on the right right now. >> on the note, we remember last week kevin mccarthy came out that kevin mccarthy had a private

compromised virgin is going to go back to the house, where you have house freedom caucus chairman scott perry his members wouldn't give into a compromise. it'll be a little bit of a different ball gown ballgame in the senate, charles. >> we're talking about a lot of amendments here. i think at last count there was somewhere around 80 different amendments that had been added to the ndaa. do you have any sense of what is actually going to make it into the final bill? what might in terms of their priorities? >> we mentioned earlier some of the more controversial amendments on dei initiatives, prohibiting funding for trans health care, service members, and funding for abortion related expenses. and in a democratic-controlled senate senate, those are not likely to survive. an interesting amendment that's going to be added in the senate the, majority leader chuck schumer, and senator, republican senator mike rounds announced on friday they plan to add an amendment that would look at declassifying government records related to ufos. that could make its way in there. another space to watch is represe

since then greene has reportedly not responded to scott perry and other top members to communicate witheirdless down, axio reporter juliegrace brufke. is she in or is she out? what's the report telling you? >> good morning. i spoke with multiple members of the freedom caucus last friday and a little bit over the weekend and multiple members who tried to reach out to marjorie taylor greene that they overwhelmingly voted to remove her from the conservative group there. multiple members said she has not answered h.e.r. phone. one likened it to dodging legal documentation being served. she spoke with breitbart last week. >> what else are freedom caucus meetings if not fiery. what's fascinating about this story is one of the reasons that marjorie taylor greene is being ousted from the freedom caucus is because she's almost been too cozy with kevin mccarthy. i mean just track the evolution of mtg for a second and explain to me why this is worth losing the freedom caucus in the short run. what could she gain in the long run from this? >> she came in to congress as a fire brand, very controvers

that's because scott perry could not schedule a meeting with her despite numerous attempts before andlitics editor for nbc news. amanda, great to see you. marjorie taylor greene has fashioned herself as a right wing celebrity. it's amazing the freedom caucus is pushing her out reportedly. obviously it's that mccarthy vote that shows some of the republican party think he's not right wing enough. >> yeah, i think that's part of -- marjorie taylor greene actually has been fashioning this new reputation for herself. she always was known as sort of the most right wing of the right wing of the republican party in congress. but she backed kevin mccarthy for speaker pretty hard. and that angered a lot of the freedom caucus members because she has sort of redefined herself a little bit as someone who can stand the stride of the far-right of the party but also the establishment wing. and nbc news reported earlier this year she'll she's sort of gunning to be donald trump's vice president, and this is part of her pitch and her new image. but it seems like some people who were close to her in that

freedom caucus members say chairman scott perry made numerous attempts to reach her before and at the attempts were all ignored. with me now, california congressman robert garcia. congressman, i wonder what this drama between green, her freedom caucus colleagues, tells you about the priorities of the far-right in congress? >> yeah, well thank you. look, first, the republican house members are in total disarray. it's just another example of that. obviously the freedom caucus kicking out marjorie taylor greene who is usually even more extreme than they are. it's just an addition to all the craziness of congress. the truth is, kevin mccarthy has empowered marjorie taylor greene. [inaudible] it's part of their party. that's a huge concern for us. i think marjorie taylor greene, unfortunately, has incredibly damaging views. radical views that need to be stopped. so i think this is just another example of kevin mccarthy not controlling his caucus. it's another example of marjorie taylor greene not being able to get along with anybody in the congress. not even her own colleagues who aren't a

another one, scott perry. fighter. he fights like hell. guy reschenthaler. unbelievable.congressman. fred keller. and ambassador carla sands. these are all incredible people. they are courageous people. if patriots like all of us here today remain united, we will be unstoppable. we are unstoppable, there are many more of us. look, who wants policies where they say open borders? where we have people coming in from all places that nobody even wants to discuss? they say you shouldn't say that, sir. it's not right. but who wants open borders? who wants no voter i.d.? who wants high taxes? who wants high interest? nobody can buy a house now. because interest rates are so high. we were energy-independent a little while ago. now we are begging for energy from venezuela. we will put parents first, we will put children first, and we will put america first again. [applause] and we had an incredible presidency. four years. think of what we already achieved in those four incredible years. as president, i implemented " every student succeeds act" to kill the use of common core forever

was at the house foreign affairs committee yesterday and he sparred with republican congressman scott perryver climate. [video clip] >> because we have put, i forget the exact number of tons, liens of tons of co2 and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and every day we are adding more and so every day the heat is going up and we have to figure out how we will tame the monster here. the only way to do that is to reduce emissions on an ongoing basis to get control of the current level of emissions we have created -- >> sir, with all due respect, you been through this before, what is the correct amount? i don't want to have a history lesson about what people don't care about. it changes every day. >> secretary, you probably know that for approximately 200 million years -- what's the parts per million now? >> about 400. >> for 200 million years, 2000 parts per nature, did mother nature get it wrong for 200 million years? >> here is difference, there were periods where all the scientists who deal with climate acknowledge there have been moments on the planet which is billions of years old

that's because caucus chairman scott perry could not schedule a meeting with her despite numerous attemptsafter the vote to oust her. nbc news reports in an interview thursday night a house freedom caucus board member said perry had made a number of attempts to reach greene and her staff before and after the vote to oust her. quote, i suspect because she knew she was being dismissed from the freedom caucus, and a little bit like refusing service from a legal standpoint, if i'm not served, it doesn't take effect. greene's team called out the member for remaining anonymous. she said, i serve northwest georgia first, and serve no group in washington. a lot to pick through there, jen palmieri. you talked not so long ago on the surface with marjorie taylor greene, the congresswoman there. obviously, she is her own brand. she is her own thing. she's right about that, saying she doesn't belong to a group. what is the significance of this? >> we should clock this moment that marjorie taylor greene has been kicked out of the house freedom caucus. you know, they did say in the story, they said part

skin in the game in terms of whatever happens from this jack smith investigation, someone like scott perryo was involved in the investigation, had his cellphone seized at one point may be more concerned about what's coming down the pike here. but at this point the play book is well-worn, the talking points are well-established. and house gop and donald trump and his allies going to hold hands and jump on this one together. >> as stefanik said she talks to him once a week. david jolly, i want you to take a listen once more to kevin mccarthy and then what he said in the aftermath of the january 6th attack. >> so what do they do now to weaponize government to go after their number one opponent. it's time and time again -- the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. make no mistake those who are responsible for wednesday's chaos will be brought to justice. >> david jolly, i'd ask what happened to kevin mccarthy but it seems like a pretty rhetorical question at this point. >> i

they know what chip roy knows, and what scott perry knows, that this country is rotting from the inside. they can't explain what it is, but they can't afford their groceries or move to a bigger home, they know they can't afford a mortgage or a car loan and when their parents had a house, the biggest bill was their house and second biggest bill was a car loan. now the second biggest bill that people have is health insurance, health insurance. and i thought we solved that problem in the united states of america. it's not doctors getting rich, it is somebody in the middle, bureaucrats siphoning the money and this town created and solved the problems by making the problems worse and now my bosses and chip's bosses, my constituents and yours can't afford to live their life in america and be healthy and take a vacation, have a decent car, home or education for their children or making choices. i don't know, my house has a gas stoaive in it and i can't afford to rewire it but the bureaucrats at the department of energy, i said you know what is involved in changing from a gas stove to an electr

. >> reporter: perry johnson, senator tim scott, and florida governor ron desantis making their appeal to voters. >> freedom has been under assault in this country. we need people to stand up and fight back and that's exactly what we're doing here. >> reporter: and at the white house, president biden and the first lady celebrating independence day with a barbecue, honoring active duty military and their families. >> democracy is never, never, never guaranteed. every generation must fight to maintain it. >> reporter: biden trying to turn the page after a series of defeats handed down by the conservative majority supreme court last week. li linsey, missing from the campaign trail this holiday, former president trump. his campaign blasting those arizona election allegations, calling them a witch hunt, and saying that he did nothing wrong. linsey? >> linsey: alex, thank you. >>> when we come back, shark scares have beachgoers on alert this fourth of july. >>> and a terrifying roller coaster malfunction at a festival in wisconsin. es, i want to keep it real and talk about some risks. with t

made up of quote, the discarded spare parts of bobby jindal, bill de blasio, rick perry, and scott walker got a sting. this came after desantis proclaimed on fox that if elected president, he would eliminate for federal agencies, the departments of education commerce, energy, and the irs. -- had us on the show thinking back to this moment in 2011. >> the third agency of government i would do away with, the education, the commerce -- and let's see. i can't -- the third one. i can't. sorry, oops. >> painful. of course, that seems quaint in comparison to desantis's brand of ultra right-wing extremism. today more than 200 bills that desantis signed are going into effect. these are laws that infringe on the rights of students, immigrants, lgbtq+ americans, laws that curtail -- diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives at colleges and universities, carol lam and barbara boxer are with me, and joining the conversation is dave aronberg, state attorney for palm beach county in florida. dave, i will start with you. absurd is ron desantis's role of eliminating for federal agencies. can you talk ab

we can show you now ron desantis, tim scott, doug burgum, will heard, perry johnson all in new hampshireough and that big parade in merrimack and iowa pens, ace a hutch huh son larry elder and mayor of miami suarez who got up ran a 5 k said he came in sixth place then was making pancakes. pretty amazing stuff. by the way our fox digital folks got out to merrimack and actually caught up with senator tim scott and talked to him on the fourth in new hampshire. here's a little bit of what senator scott had to say. take a listen. >> you know, the fourth is the holiday celebrating independence, celebrating liberty and freedom synonyms for independence. i love the fourth of july because it reminds me of the men and the women willing to sacrifice everything for the cause of freedom. i can't think of a better day to celebrate, particularly our men in uniform, whether it's backing the blue, whether it's our military men and women this is a great day to sell braise who we are. frankly you and i have both won the lottery of sit social security numbership not a better place to call home than america

it sort of feels like rick perry 2016. scott walker, as well, i guess. handful of them, for that matter. >> sounds about right. >> you talk about his body language, showing how uncomfortable he is. look at chris christie's body language. is anyone in this campaign having more fun than chris christie? the chances of him getting the nomination, pretty low. i mean, maybe if some kind of bank shot against new hampshire. but he is making the case that the other republicans are afraid to make, and he is having a ton of fun. >> he is pitching himself as truth teller. if donald trump skips that first debate, you can imagine governor christie is going to train his fire on governor desantis. >> the first to endorse donald trump. >> never lose the context for the validation he gave trump in 2016. "washington post"'s jackie alemany, i suspect you have a busy week ahead. >> "barbieheimer". >> don't worry about the impending indictments. get to the movies. thanks for joining us. >>> coming up on "morning joe," protests are intensifying in jerusalem as there is an atte

scott executive director henderson. first off, i would like to give thank you for the community to speak today to present the police officer recognition award. officer perry is a 15-year veteran and assigned to the chair evangelical plainclothes unit. the unit which investigates complex incidents and collaborates with other plainclothes as part of a larger mission to reduce the rise of criminal activity. in addition to officer ferry, he assist his fellow officers. in his tenure, he has participated in over 100 search warrants, offered hundreds of arrest warrants and has been the lead investigator in dozens investigations. one occured in october of 2022, a series of gas station robberies injured in san francisco and in daly city. officer ferry was working when one of the incident occured and investigated. he abstained video, through a series of investigative, he was able to locate the owner and along with the owners aid, he was able to track the vehicle and its whereabouts. officer and the team were able to locate the vehicle pulling into another gas station in san francisco. to prevent from another robbery from occurring, officer on scene took the robbery

scott executive director henderson. first off, i would like to give thank you for the community to speak today to present the police officer recognition award. officer perry is a 15-year veteran and assigned to the chair evangelical plainclothes unit. the unit which investigates complex incidents and collaborates with other plainclothes as part of a larger mission to reduce the rise of criminal activity. in addition to officer ferry, he assist his fellow officers. in his tenure, he has participated in over 100 search warrants, offered hundreds of arrest warrants and has been the lead investigator in dozens investigations. one occured in october of 2022, a series of gas station robberies injured in san francisco and in daly city. officer ferry was working when one of the incident occured and investigated. he abstained video, through a series of investigative, he was able to locate the owner and along with the owners aid, he was able to track the vehicle and its whereabouts. officer and the team were able to locate the vehicle pulling into another gas station in san francisco. to prevent from another robbery from occurring, officer on scene took the robbery