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pennsylvania congressman scott perry. who is chair of the house freedom caucus. mr.tand it, the main street whatever partnership and freedom caucus, have banded together and have an interesting deal that would what put in a continuing resolution for another month or so before we get to the rest of the appropriation bills, you tell me. >> i will tell you we're not up leveled i -- not interested in 8 shut down but folks running this place squandered most of the summer, we got together with some folks said, can we do 30 days cut government 8% during those 30 days, and force a border policy and get border policy for 30 days of cut funding permanently and allow to us finish the appropriations bills that we have not finished all summer get on with getting policy and spending right. we have not finished those bills, you understand washington there are plenty of people here who want to spend more and more money, there are folks like me who will not vote to spend more and more money, we're spending too much on the wrong thing that is the impasse, the 30 days of cutting spendi

i talked to scott perry a couple of days ago on where this is going. take a look.nds like you're disappointed in the speaker. do you think he should be speaker? >> well, i think we should have gotten the bills done. like i said, it takes more than one personned to do that, but he wanted to be the leader, and he can't just be in charge. you have to lead. neil: all right. he was one of the softer voices on we had it with you, kevin mccarthy. now, of course, you're in the united states senate, but this angst that's building against speaker mccarthy who could lose his job for just one angry member, what do you think of that? >> well, first of all, it's 218 to vacate the chair. not for kevin to lose his position. kevin's going to be speaker as long as he wants to be speaker. scott perry -- neil: i'm sorry, senator, one could get that process going. >> one could get the process going, but that doesn't mean one can get the vote. one has a great idea, but that doesn't mean you can get 218 to southern you. and scott perry, look, he's the chairman of the freedom caucus which

vote "no" on continuing resolution, lawmakers have until september 30, to avert a shut downer, scott perryof the house oversight foreign affairs committee congressman thanks very much for being here mr. chairman i want to get your take what freedom caucus wants how significant this continuing resolution is from your standpoint? >> well, thank you, maria good morning. the freedom caucus requests have been obvious since january we want to drive the cost of government spending down, we feel like this government is way too big unaffordable, and many cases, weaponized against the very people, that have to pay for it. that all having been said, this is not a continuing resolution, in the classic sense because the continuing resolution in that sense does exactly what it portends it continues the policy it continues the spending. this is more of a sequester it is an 8% cut over the period of the time of the -- of the resolution changes policy requires biden administration to actually enforce border policy passed by hr house of representatives this has come out there are critics this is where the d

larry: yeah, you're right, scott perry, you're so smart.that is the best part. thanks for coming back. >> good bless you larry. larry: most famous cell phone in america. coming up next, mr. david weiss, another special prosecutor as of now today indicted hunter biden own on three federal gun charges is that it? that is the whole nine yards? i'm not so sure. we'll ask smart lawyer will sharp. he is a former assistant u.s. attorney. stay right here. that's it? that is the whole thing? 25 years in jail. ♪. meet arexvy. ( ♪ ) the first fda-approved rsv vaccine. arexvy is used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can severely affect the lungs and lower airways. arexvy is proven to be over 82% effective in preventing lower respiratory disease from rsv and over 94% effective in those with these health conditions. ( ♪ ) arexvy does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients. those with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. the mos

and judge cannon will reverse judge howell's decision, as they did on the scott perry case yesterdaye judge howell's rulings at the time are going to stand. one important thing as well. when we litigated this, ordinarily a ruling comes down and you get a certain period of time to turn the notes over or file a notice of appeal. judge howell turned the notes over instantly to the government and didn't give an opportunity to file a notice of appeal as she did with scott perry. what you saw with the scott perry, where they appealed it, and appellate court disagreed with her decision, we were denied that. thereby really depriving them of jurisdiction, and they kicked the can down the road and judge cannon will decide. >> you could have a portion of this is that still stands, even if some of it is thrown out, if evan corcoran has to testify to that, what kind of witness is he going to be? >> not a helpful witness to the government. really it's going to be limited to that one thing about they said this on this day. and i think that they will probably, you know, proceed by a stipulation on t

scott perry is a very interesting carry durr here. first of all we subpoenaed him, and he defied the subpoena and refused to talk about any of this with the select committee. he was right in the center of that proposed personnel change in the department of justice. we think that he was a person who introduced jeff clark, who is now charged as a defendant in the georgia case. to president trump as a possible acting attorney general who is prepared to take the department of justice into territory of trying to interfere in, or suggesting special sessions with the state election processes. that did not work but perry was pushing, pushing meadows and probably pushing the president directly. it was also an object or with, and involved in with members of congress, who would or who would not reject the particular results on the floor. the judge is going to try to parse what is protected, what is legitimate, what might be privilege in some way. from what is potentially arguably criminal conduct. outside of the permissible scope of his roles in

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joining us now pennsylvania congressman scott perry. a number of the house oversight committees. oming on as you deal. you know, i remember you came on the show, a year ago, about your cell phone. they were taking your cell phone away. i could not figure out what gave them the authority to do that. now, if i understand it, i am reading an article. one of them in the new york sun. the court has ruled in your favor, an appeals court or something, someone has ruled in your favor that the government has no business taking the information from your phone. i don't know if that is true. we need you to explain it. it sounds like you had a big win it sounds like special counsel jack smith may have a big loss regarding trauma. you have the most famous cell phone and all of america. >> well, larry, thank you. a tremendous victory for the prosecution and all americans. targeted by this outrageous biden, you know, the abuse of power of the biden administration through the department of justice. in the constitution article one, it says that members of congress , conversations with our colleague

meadows sent a text message to republican congressman, scott perry. as judge jones writes, near the end of this ruling, meadows was required to come forward with competent proof of his factual contention that his allegations, his actions, involving challenges to the outcome of the georgia election results were within his role of chief of staff. his efforts fall short. tonight, just before we got on the air, lawyers for mr. meadows told the court that they plan to appeal this ruling. joining me now are former acting u.s. solicitor general, neil katyal, and melissa redmon, former prosecutor in the fulton county d. a.'s office and now professor of law at the u.s. georgia law school. neal and melissa thanks for joining us. neil, i know you have some thoughts on this based on your social media activity. let me just first ask you how strong an appeal is on this ruling. >> weak. very, very weak. this decision by judge jones is 49 pages long. it's very thorough. it's not surprising, in a way, alex because i think anyone who understands how the statute works k

congressman scott perry from pennsylvania, freedom caucus chair what he thinks of this process. always good to have you, chairman. what do you think? >> well, we're working on it. what we asked for is 12 separated spending bills. the time is ebbed away to get them accomplished. the american people are sick of the status quo in washington d.c. where a couple of people in the house and the senate make a huge deal and you have to vote for terrible things that bankrupt the country to keep the government open. we're done with that. we've been in this process for 50 years, neil. four of those 50 years we've passed 12 appropriations bills. the last time it happened was in 1996. the american people are sick of it, we're sick of it and sick of the excuses. so we have to get after it, get to work and we're willing to do that. we're not going to agree with whatever garbage the senate send us when theres no plan to finish our job. >> neil: so if speaker mccarthy can cobble enough democrats to force the issue, you think he should go? >> well, i will tell you, we had all summer to get this do

scott perry and chip roy says i need another month you say i'm not giving you another month.own. >> this is about messaging. again, you are getting back to what this is all about. it's about messaging. let's sit down and take the time that we have remaining, let's develop the appropriations bills all 12 of them. >> brian: you can do it in seven days. >> absolutely. brian, we can accomplish anything we'll want to in 48 hours in this city but you have to want to do it. i'm willing to stay here. i would have stayed here all the way through august, brian. but you have to have leadership that says this is whether a you are going to do. this didn't arise seven days ago, brian. we knew for nine months we were supposed to develop appropriations bill they have known for seven month. they are not doing it. i was not sent here to kick the can down the road. adding $2 trillion it of debt to the debt every single year. >> brian: congressman you know if the government gets shut down republicans get the blame because they are not providing even a c.r., a pathway to a cr, you are saying i'm

i should mention, by the way, we have scott perry coming up, he is the chair of the house freedom caucushe should be coming up in the next block. but immediately, we have this economic impact. as hillary said, it hasn't historically affected markets very much, but let's bring in e.j. antoni, an economist and research fellow at the heritage foundation, and jack bouroudjian, chairman of the global smart commodity group. jack, first to you, i was just looking the last time there was a big shutdown or partial government shutdown was 2019. the market during the shutdown actually ended up 10%. [laughter] so sometimes it's, may not be good or bad news, but sometimes it's actually good news. >> but remember, david, that was a period where we actually saw the fed actually with easing money policies. this is the first time we're actually seeing this type of shutdown being threatened when we're seeing the fed draining the system. that's a headwind in and of itself. so let's see how this all place out. i'll say that and, of course, the bottom line is this needs to be done, you know? look, the realit

maria: house freedom caucus chairman and the member of the house oversight committee congressman scott perry. thank you for joining us. >> great to see you. i think you're playing clips of the site and. they cannot see the mountain of evidence that the american people have been seen for some time and grows every single day. maria: i want to talk about the mountain of evidence you were part of the closed meeting with house speaker kevin mccarthy and republicans laid out their case against the president tell me what the amount of evidences and where do things stand. >> where things stand and what we heard there is $20 million that moved from foreign entities and foreign individuals into the biden family. we have literally dozens and dozens of suspicious activity reports for banking, anomalies connected with the bidens and transmissions between the president and his son under a fictitious name. we have the president showing up in person or on the phone in board meetings with his son's business partners and all of that leads to corruption and influence peddling there has been credible reports fr

congress is as i was coming over here, i saw a tweet representing scott perry was asked today about have they resolve impasse right now the house is stuck freedom some members freedom blocked the rule on some bill that all the republicans wanted us out there. scott perry has that been resolved and he says it doesn't matter that much that was that was just a messaging bill and the person tweeted a steak sherman's said well that's all the house is doing right now i've argued that's what the house done since 2011. the house has taken itself out of two large extent, legislating and big problem is, is phil is we're really congress is supposed to take all these ideas from the diverse country and i mean this book is just really incredible. it's the book i wish i have written. i'm glad phil had to put all of the work in to do it. he did a better job than i probably would have, but this is why it's so important. but i think so few people understand this what the role of congress is supposed to it's supposed to be representative who, come in, bring the views of their constituents to washington, th

scott: thank you, chair perry. let's look at what's going on here. we've had a 1.8% increase in our population since 2019. the budget's up 55%. would anybody do that with their personal life? nobody would to that. that's $400,000 of new spending per new person. it's unconscionable what they're doing. we're never going to get inflation under control. we got -- now if you want a mortgage, it's over 7.5%. if you want a car, your interest rate is at the highest in 23 years. if you have a credit card, highest rate on credit card in history. the biden administration, their economics is hurting all of our families. i thank god what the freedom caucus is doing in the house. if they don't stand up, nobody is standing up. they stood up on the debt ceiling and they fought for a great bill. unfortunately it didn't end up that way but they fought for a great bill. we've got to stop this insanity. on top of that, in my state we've had two hurricanes. i can't make sure the federal government's funded to even take care of disasters. the federal secretary of agricult

pennsylvania congressman scott perry laying into a reporter who claims there is no evidence of any biden is just political revenge. >> pushback comes after speaker mccarthy launched impeachment inquiry into the president based on house republican's investigations of his family's foreign business dealings. fox news contributor joe concha joins us now. joe, could congressman perry have destroyed that reporter's circular logic any better than he did? >> every republican lawmaker that's involved in this impeachment inquiry needs to respond to the zero evidence question exactly like that. not gently, but with a hard jab rhetorically. and, by the way, it's totally a true statement by the way that there is no evidence here whatsoever if you don't count texts by hunter biden influence peddling and joe biden getting half of his earnings. emails talking about 10% going to the big guy. what happens messages of his father saying on the phone with him and hunter demanding payment. whistleblower testimony backing this all up. hunter biden's laptop backing this all up. bank records show $20 million bei

the way, i will say every single gop member of the pennsylvania delegation has endorsed you from scott perry to brian fitzpatrick. those two don't agree on very much. you have incredible credentials and background. tell us why you're doing this and how you're going to win. >> well, listen. thanks for having me on the show. i'm doing this, you know, you sound like my wife, why are you doing this? the reason i'm doing this is because i've been blessed. i feel like i had all the opportunities this country has to offer, went to west point, served in combat in the 82'nd airborne division and was a successful businessman. and i think those to much has been given and much was expected and our country is headed in a terrible direction under the leadership of joe biden whether it's the open border and whether it's record high inflation. whether it's the fact we've now become jury dependent on the policies under joe biden and every step along the way, bob casey has been a rubber stamp for that failing biden agenda. i'm worried for the country i love and had the opportunity to serve. isn't going to be

>> scott perry is in agreement that we will not win with nothing and we have to have something and fortunatelyis securing the boarder and it's a win for the american people and i dare the senate and deputies and president biden to say no, i'm not going to keep the government open because republicans also want to fund the border while they do it. that is a losing argument for democrats. stuart: congressman lance gooden, thank you for joining us, sir. >> thank you. stuart: it was fun and see you again real soon. >> i hope. stuart: check that market. we're down, what, 260 now, three quarters of 1%. nasdaq down 0.85 and s and p down about 0.7%. it's that time, tuesday trivia question and again, it's a good one for those who know a little american history. how long did prohibition last in the united states? 6, 9, 13, 16 years in the answer of course when we come back. ♪ (sfx: stone wheel crafting) ♪ .. the biggest ideas inspire new ones. 30 years ago, state street created an etf that inspired the world to invest differently. it still does. what can you do with spy? ♪ we really don't want people to

scott: thank you, chair perry. let's look at what's going on here. we've had a 1.8% increase in our population since 2019. the budget's up 55%. would anybody do that with their personal life? nobody would to that. that's $400,000 of new spending per new person. it's unconscionable what they're doing. we're never going to get inflation under control. we got -- now if you want a mortgage, it's over 7.5%. if you want a car, your interest rate is at the highest in 23 years. if you have a credit card, highest rate on credit card in history. the biden administration, their economics is hurting all of our families. i thank god what the freedom caucus is doing in the house. if they don't stand up, nobody is standing up. they stood up on the debt ceiling and they fought for a great bill. unfortunately it didn't end up that way but they fought for a great bill. we've got to stop this insanity. on top of that, in my state we've had two hurricanes. i can't make sure the federal government's funded to even take care of disasters. the federal secretary of agricult

is that the cr that byron donalds and scott perry worked on where it's an 8% cut in spending but it makes the key centerpiece? >> well, i think so. there's several different iterations, maria, that still are flexible to this day. there's thought to be a discharge petition by one of the members from new york to get the whole thing done cleanly. i'm not in favor of that. but the whole fact is that we're thinking about it and moving it forward. sometimes if something comes over with the senate -- the senate sent something over with massive amounts of aid for ukraine it's dead on arrival. nobody wants a shutdown. nobody wants a shutdown. and so we're just trying to move forward. this is hard business, it's hard to gather all the individuals and all the different personalities together to agree but i think mccarthy has done an excellent job of herding the cats. maria: he certainly has. i know it's tough when you only have a four seat majority. i want to get your take on the other big piece of business, that is the householding the first impeachment inquiry, the hearing yesterday. congresswoman

continuing resolution that has an 8% cut in spending which was worked on by byron donaldson and scott perrye the border is the central piece. i know a lot of your members have already said i am a no because there's no money to ukraine. you've advance for spending bills, speaker mccarthy says he expects to advance a continuing resolution on friday but the senate may be into the punch devoting their own short-term spending bill to avoid a government shutdown. tell me where you are in terms of the four bills are you focused on homeland security or the defense bill, what does it look like what kind of success are you expecting. >> as your question alluded to there a lot of moving parts to this right now. i think republicans are the strongest when we stick together we are working every day one day at a time to make sure that we stick together on a plan. that's how were going to get something done with the democrat led senate and the democrat led white house. it's incredibly important that we get something done on our border and the american people understand this is a crisis in the understand th

the house freedom caucus chairman scott perry supported plan.se two guys are two of the most conservative members of the house. so you have a couple though, who know there is a four seat majority so they could nickel and dime it. i don't know that anything they pass will actually get passed the senate. but they have to come up with something to start the process with the senate. and this sounds like a good start. >> so what do you think is motivating the matt gaetz' of the world? >> matt gaetz likes to be matt gaetz. he also was the guy who nearly forced another vote on the speaker back in january when everything was happening. he wants to look like he would getting? out of this because he wanted to run for governor of florida in 2026 against byron donald so he wants to hurt the deal because byron might run against him. but it has more to do with political performance than actual practical policy. >> there is also this big question, do you think speaker mccarthy is going to survive until november of 2024? >> you know. i'm not a huge fan, but he'

subpoenaed five republican members of congress, kevin mccarthy and month brooks and jim jordan and scott perryt one of them testified. did did the committee try to get testimony from the senators, graham, purdue and loeffler. >> we had discussed but based on the reaction of our colleagues in the house, we had an expectation they might not comply. but also the division between the house and senate was an impediment to some extent on subpoenaing senators. >> what do you make of the district attorney in fulton county, her ultimate decision to not bring charges against michael flynn or cleta mitchell or senator graham, or senators perdue and loeffler. do you think they got a pass because they were elected officials? >> well, it is hard to know. but for one thing, this shows that the district attorney down there in fulton county is not just willy-nilly indicting people as some of the trump supporters have suggested. she took some of the suggestions, she discarded others, a assume because she felt the evidence was not sufficient to convict. so that shows really discretion on her part, contrary to so

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thank you to my friend, the chairman of the freedom caucus, scott perry, and all my colleagues here and friends who are representing people from across this country who are fed up. mr. roy: they're fed up with a government there's out of control. and here's the thing. our founding fathers, in creating this country, created separation of powers. it is incumbent upon those of us with election certificates, particularly in the house of representatives, but also the senate, to stand up at this end of pennsylvania avenue and hold the other end of pennsylvania avenue and the executive branch accountable. a president and an executive branch that is out of control. my question for my colleagues, particularly my republican colleagues, is when is it enough? when is it enough to stand up and do what you campaigned to do? and use the power of the purse to stop this administration from trampling the american people? spending is out of control. federal government will spend $2 trillion more than it takes in this year, to fund the very agencies and programs at war with the american people. inflation i

we were supposed to have scott perry, but he was tied up in one of these meetings about the government shutdown. have a wonderful weekend, folks. it is time to hand it over to listman donald. -- liz macdonald. elizabeth: good to have you back, david, i missed you. breaking news, the justice department just charged an irs contractor with leaking former president trump's private tax return information to the new york times. but did the doj seriously undercharge him? and we've got top house lawmakers meaning in -- subpoenaing the bank records of hunter biden, james biden and their companies for the impeachment inquiry. we're going to dig into what they're looking at. and this story coming in, outraged lawmakers demand the biden administration fix squall will lid and filthy living conditions for u.s. troops here in the u.s. it's worse than what we reported. and we've got new reports that top democrat allies urged president biden to ditch campaigning on bidenomics as a, quote e, serious misstep. but we've9 got their reaction to that. and democrat senator elizabeth warren with slams a biden

was a budget deal on the table a week ago that was negotiated by byron donalds and chip roy and scott perryon plan that would fund the government for 30 days while they could work on appropriations bills, the others that are not done yet but the one issue in that, that they were hoping to get, was no more money to allow migrants coming in and getting processed. they either have to keep them at the border or send them back and unfortunately a small group of disrupters disrupted that deal. and that is why we will likely see a government shutdown one week from today. this border is an embarrassment. the entire world is watching. and embedded in all of these numbers are people coming through the border are the chinese nationals where xi jinping is apparently sending military age men into america to get in through the border and many people believe that is so they can become sabatours once xi jinping gives them the direction. this is obvious what's going on with china and this administration is doing nothing about it. we're talking about it this morning. we are talking with congressman jim jorda

one where he sends a text message to are epttive scott perry asking for someone's phone number was the thing that you could construe as within his duties as white house chief of staff. everything else was at the behest of the trump campaign and people need to know bthere is a big difference between a political activity of a candidate of office and official duties of a white house chief of staff. it's right, i think. >> so, anthony, you have others who may ask to do same, move the case it federal court. donald trump is one of the them, right. his lawyers said they were considering asking to move to federal court. trump has said that they are going to do that. now, it was interesting what the judge said. like, you know, don't look at this as marrying to anybody else. i will look at these cases on their own merits, seeming to say this precedent, it doesn't shut the door for anything else. it seems to make it more of an upward climb, doesn't it? >> yeah, i think it's unlikely given the standard and how it was applied to mark meadows anybody seeking removal will be successfully removed from

scott perry among the people pleased. this was just dropped on you, too.tana representative is against matt rosendale. >> what are the objectives? they are to curb spending and remove the woke. how we did that we did it by appropriation bills. if these guys. >> brian: you didn't do it? >> if these guys don't vote for national homeland security. what does it look like? looks like 32 feet tall and about 1,000 miles long. empower the border patrol, ice, to do their job. if you don't vote for this, i don't know what you came to town for. >> brian: you saw enough in the continuing resolution to get us to october 31st you would sign on to it. >> i'm still looking at it. it was just dropped to us 170 pages. we have 72 hours to review it. i certainly sympathize. i don't like continuing resolutions either. we should get the appropriations bill done. what is paired with this is our restore the border legislation. it would restore the wall it. weeks pansd customs and border patrol. it would end the crazy asylum and it would end policies of biden and end catch and rel

i want to get your take on this, scott perry and pete buttigieg got into a shouting match yesterday over electric vehicles during the house transportation and infrastructure committee hearing. watch this. >> one of the reasons we've seen manufacturing jobs grow so much in this administration compared to the manufacturing recession under the last administration is we're investing in american manufacturing. >> you're investing with our money in things that we don't want. >> i need to point out that wealthy people were excluded from the inflation reduction act. >> do you dispute two thirds of ev owners are by those that make over $100,000. >> do you dispute that. >> that number's going down. >> the folks i represent can't afford them today, sir. >> why are you against cutting their costs. >> all these factors -- i'm not against cutting the cost. the market should do it. you want the government, you want my taxpayers to pay to cut the cost which isn't cutting the cost, it's subsidizing. maria: congressman perry accused the administration of trying to, quote, kill the auto industry. mark, you

investigation think president biden did things illegal you got republicans out there including scott perrye says listen this is a one way to clear the president let us have this investigation if there's nothing there that is what we will discover pay with all those things in mind do you think transparency they're owed about this things? >> with the american people want is for us to fund government and solve their issues. i know you are fair and looked at the facts as to your viewers but i recommend an op ed a republican's pen and the washington post. he goes through all the facts and explains why there is no grounds for an beach but in quite this is by kevin mccarthy does not have the votes. when we impeach president trump, every democrat voted for it he simply do have the votes on his side present 20 -- 30 member saying fund the government solve people's problems and he lent lays out all the facts for. >> are deafly republicans say they do not want to go down this road. we'll see if they get the house but before they proceed any further once the inquiry is underway. what to make sure he t

and byron donalds, andy biggs, 8,433, and lisa mcclain, 7,286, and scott perry pennsylvania district and the capital of my commonwealth, republican shutdown, cost 5,445 of his constituents who will lose their paycheck, indeed when you add up -- add it all up, republicans shut down will cost 217,583 of their constituents on this committee's paychecks, their income for who knows how long. let that sink in for a second. those are our mothers, our fathers, caretakers, brothers, sisters, mom, dad, grandpa, grandmas, friends, beloved community members, veterans, won't know how their food or medicine will be paid for where the rent money is coming from. many of them vote republican but i bet not one of them cares more about hunter biden's laptop or helping kevin mccarthy keep his gig as leader or speaker of his dysfunctional caucus than they care about receiving their paycheck and making their ends meet. so the republicans on this committee are betting we'll spend this hearing engaging in partisan bickering over their favorite buzz words rather than talking about how the maga shutdown will

we saw several days ago where people like congressman buyer donald, congresswoman chip away, scott perryrked at a really good approach that i think gave us a path to actually reduce spending, reduce the border, at something was absolutely every day we get closer to the end of the fiscal gear, the opportunities to use the leverage to force this white house, to force president biden, to cave on those issues, it's waning. and i think it's a huge mistake. so, we're continuing to work on this, but also, another part, the speaker of the house and the debt commission, to look at long term -- >> so you're taking a lesson to members of congress there, congressman garrett graves, congressman style, i believe, from wisconsin, and congresswoman houchin as well. they are getting off this call, the republican caucus. about averting a government shutdown, essentially. want to bring david jolly back into the conversation. david, i don't know if you have heard what i heard, but they are saying they are unified. doesn't necessarily seem like they are unified, i got. they are unified over two things, they

you from, you know, scott perry to bryan fitz. two don'patrick.you know, those two don't agree on very much. you have incrediblu haere and background. tell us why you're doing thi gos and how you're going to win. well, listenten., thanks for hae me on the show. i'm doing this. becaknow, you sound like, whe y. why are you doing this? the reason i'm doing thiees is because i've been blessed.pot i feel like i've had all theunit opportunities this country has h to offer. i went to west point. i served in combat in the 82ndss airborne division and then was beenccessful businessman and i think those who have too much tes been givenuch . much is expected. and our country is headed in a lead under whetheron under the leadership of joe biden. whether it's the open border , ether it whether it's record high inflation, whether it's the fact that we'v face now become energy dependent under the policies of joe biden and at every step along the way,, bob casey has been a rubber stamp for that failing joe biden agenda. and i'm really worried the country that i l

a lower court decision in the scott perry case.he house republican who was fighting to prevent the special counsel from accessing his phone records in the federal january 6 case. he was arguing he was protected on the debate floor afforded to members of congress and that he was acting as a member of congress that he was engaged in efforts to supposedly find fraud in the 2020 election. that decision means the dcc has decided the chief judge's earlier decision to allow prosecutors to look at the contents of his phone should be overturned. they sent it back to the d.c. district court and they need to rule on this again, applying a test and we don't know what the test is. host: you said to apply correct standards and you put that in quotations. guest: that was the synopsis in the decision. it strongly suggests that scott perry has won this battle at least in part if not entirely. i think for doj to have been defeated on the debate floor is a major step back for them and we will see whether they appeal the circuit court decision. host:

. >> congressman scott perry denies it, and an appeals court just issued a major ruling surrounding the ahead on "morning joe." blinken is in kyiv meeting with ukrainian officials including president zelenskyy. he wrapped up a meeting moments ago reaffirming america's commitment to helping ukraine. >> i am here first and foremost to demonstrate our ongoing and determined support for ukraine as it deals with this aggression. we have seen good progress in the counter offensive, and we want to make sure ukraine has what it needs not only to succeed in the counter offensive, but as what it needs for the long-term as it has a strong deterrent and defense capacity so in the future aggression like this doesn't happen again. >> it marks his fourth trip to ukraine since the war began, and he's expected to announce more than $1 billion in new funding for ukraine. joining us, nbc key foreign correspondent, richard engel. >> reporter: good morning. it's good to be back in ukraine, and according to state officials who are briefing reporters, this trip is designed to show u.s. support, to connect wit

unbeknownst to rosen and donahue, pennsylvania republican republican scott perry had brought clark toepublican members of congress who had joined trump at the white house to discuss overturning the 2020 election. trump also mentioned jeff clark on a separate call with rosen. >> he made what i regarded as a peculiar reference. i don't remember the fact quote, but it was something about did i know jeff clark or did i know who he was or something like that. i was quizzical as to, how does the president even know mr. clark? >> rosen confronted clark who admitted he'd broken the longstanding policy governing communication between the justice department and the white house. white house lawyers pat cipollone and patrick philbin also intervened and warned clark not to communicate with the white house. clark agreed -- but just two days later escalated the situation with an e-mail that set off a series of events that would rock the justice department. >> we came in on monday, december 28th, a hectic day as they all were, and then in the afternoon we got that e-mail, which i had to sit down and