but in the 10th district, donald trump is going to do very well and scott perry is going to do extremelyalists might have history on their side, but the ground here could be shifting. according to a recent poll conducted between late may and early june, perry and trump were leading their respective races. until a jury convicted the former president on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. support for both candidates dropped. perry's seven-point lead fell to one point, a statistical dead heat. the republicans we spoke to voted for perry in the past, but now see him as an extension of pro-trump extremism. beyond january 6, some criticized perry's votes against funding for ukraine, israel, and keeping the government open. >> they are tired of people who will not cross the aisle, and they are tired of people who are so far one way or the other that they cannot see any other point of view. and that sums up scott perry. >> those extreme positions are out of step with where i am and i think with where many people in this area. and i don't see that changing in the future. so i think w

larry: scott perry, doug collins, let me go to you. no one will accuse mr. being soft on the open border. in fact he talks in the same speech paragraph about a massive deportation program. but it is an interesting wrinkle. i interviewed him before the business roundtable, what, 10, 12 days ago. he made this point. if you get a diploma from a two-year or four-year college, or graduate school, you should get a green card because we like to keep and attract the best and brightest doug collins, what do you think of mr. trump's idea on this point? >> i agree with you, it is not taking anything away from stopping at border dealing with up front. dealing with folks here, that have a pathway this is issue come up before. this is something before congress before but i think it will have to be narrowly defined. it will have to be in some ways looked at. we can't really do any of this, donald trump understands until we actually close the border. get a handle on all the other problems we got with the immigration system. i think he is looking forward. i think he understa

larry: scott perry, the last word, deportation idea he goes eisenhower.is very popular. when you see the horrible hideous monstrous stories, in new york, in maryland, and georgia and texas. deportation of criminals will be a big issue. down you think? >> -- don't you think? >> they should be here soon shouldn't be here in first place preying on american citizens but then we have to incarcerate them and pay your taxes to keep ourselves safe from people who should not be here in the first place, we don't want to be afraid to go out of our homes at night or in the day in our own communities, many americans are afraid, a lady that served me lunch today said seeker frayed -- she is afraid to live in her own country,. larry: all right. thank you. congressman scott perry and doug collins appreciate it very much, coming on kudlow biden white house may have just been caught in an oil permitting and leasing lie. flat out. numbers are stark, we'll talk 'it is senator john hovan from north dakota, and a good friend, i am kudlow we'll be right back. larry: all right s

he said that scott perry has wanted to be on this committee for a while.good american who has served his country and will add a lot to this committee. i also asked johnson about the background of the phone series. johnson told me, in his mind, that was a closed matter behind us. of course, what the congressman is saying here about the concern of that background, and what congressman perry has said, not someone who will blindly following the intelligence and an outspoken critic, along with many other members of the freedom caucus that he once led, that is certainly a concern for people on this committee and who watch it as a pinnacle, guarding national secrets, that happens in the very hallways, the speaker with a full-throated endorsement. >> between jeffrey clarke and scott perry -- didn't seem happy with your response. y -- didn't y with your response i mean, radical, part of a criminal that's been charged by the department of justice in the state of georgia, a criminal effort to overturn a free and fair election, is someone speaker johnson think is a gr

congressman scott perry had a very significant role in the attempt to overturn the 2020 election. he was the congressman who tried to get trump's chief of staff, mark meadows, to investigate the conspiracy theory that italian satellites were swapping out trump votes for biden votes. he was the congressman who met with mark meadows right before mark meadows literally set fire to papers in the white house office. he was the congressman who introduced an obscure justice department employee named jeffrey clark to president trump in an effort to get president trump to appoint the very malleable mr. clark as attorney general and to help steal the 2020 election. trump ultimately did appoint jeffrey clark to serve as attorney general for one hot second, by the way. we know that now. congressman perry was also one of the people president trump talked with about going to the capitol on january 6th. and he was one of the people who asked president trump for a preemptive pardon after january 6th. and then when the house january 6th committee subpoenaed congressman perry to ask him about all o

scott perry, involved in the effort to overthrow the 2020 election.o you worry these guys will have access to classified information? they love donald trump. donald trump is running for president. are they going to share classified information with donald trump? it does not seem beyond the realm of the possible to suggest such a scenario, as crazy as it may be. >> you know what i just said about the speaker and pretty much every republican being welling to do whatever donald trump asked for. the speaker himself said he put these two on the intelligence committee, by the way without telling or consulting chairman turner, who spent the last year working with me to make this committee as nonpartisan as possible. to make it as serious as possible. i am not going to open up on perry and jackson because i need to work with them, but i will observe with you that half of the republican conference was appalled that the speaker did this. because of the reasons you articulated. look, scott perry is apparently still under investigation by the fbi, which is of cou

and scott perry from pennsylvania and ronny jackson from texas two of the most outspoken trump supportersffort to overthrow the 2020 election. do you worry these guys are going to have access to classified information. they love donald trump. donald trump is running for president. are they going to share classified information with don tphad -- donald trump. it does not seem possible to suggest. >> the speaker himself said he put these two on the intelligence committee without by the way telling chairman turner or consulting chairman turner. who has spent the last year working with me to make this economy as serious as possible. look i'm not going to open up on mr. perry and mr. jackson because i need to work for them. i will observe for you that a good half of the american conference was appalled. that this speaker did this because of the reasons that you actually just articulated. scott perry is still under investigation with the fbi which is of course part of the one of the organizations that we on this committee oversee. it's a bizarre thing. in the service to make sure this committee

speaker johnson though recently decided, as you know, to add two congressmen, scott perry and dr.nie jackson to your committee, reportedly at the behest of donald trump. one of your members, congresswoman chrissie howelly han, referred to perry as a threat to intelligence oversight. quote, he will be on the very committee that oversees the fbi while he is directly under investigation by this very agency. do you think that is a disqualifying conflict of interest? >> well, being concerned obviously about that issue and being the chairman, i contacted vic to see whether or not there was issue in due diligence that we needed to resolve or address. they indicated there was not an ongoing or continuing issue or even a current issue we needed to address. the issue here that's most important. >> the fbi told you that? >> the ic told us that. the speaker makes this appointment and what he's done since. the speaker has absolutely committed himself to these two individuals, following the rules, not only the laws. both of them have military experience. both of them have had access to classifi

scott perry and ronnie johnson jackson were appointed by speaker mike johnson last week despite pastith the fbi not to mention perry is a bona fide election denier who sought to overturn the 2020 election results. their appointments are already raising national security concerns. >> frank, i just think this is ridiculous. representative perry's attempts to overturn the election were well documented. we have live footage of the president and the first lady deplaning in france. we won't play any sound. the image we are seeing from the president, and commemorating reverence and highlighting world war ii troops today and the fight against authoritarianism across the world and at home. with what we have happening in the united states congress, some of the same folks that are thought to not just undermine but unravel key pieces of our democratic institutions and now being placed on the committees where america's secrets are held and discussed. >> this is a stark contrast to what we are seeing now with what we see happening on capitol hill with the intelligence community or committee. and w

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you could have a 10% tariff with no corporate income tax and scott perry, you're there alone and you'res out. we appreciate it very much. it's lym nating and not policy and not documented yet and nothing initial it's a 10% tariff for the income tax and individual income tax and 4 trillion worth of tariffs and $400 billion worth of revenues and that's about what the corporate tax is and you could replace the corporate tax with a 10% tax, again, this is rumination and >> yeah, but the american citizens keep more or all of what they earn and certainly we have to fund the government but we have shown time and time again that we don't have a revenue problem at federal level and we've got a spending problem and there's some folks that are going to scream that we can't afford it. well, the american people can't afford these taxes and what we can afford is our government so i think that'd be consumers pay them and reduce the spending at federal level and they'll juice juice the economy and out of inflationary psychoand will rising prices to no end and spending. larry: thank you, sir. we're back

scott perry had his phone seized because of his role in january 6th.e lead person trying to install jeffrey clark as the acting attorney general. he asked for a pardon on that. he refused to respond to a subpoena. ronnie jackson, the guy who attested to trump's destiny to live to 200 and a weight number that's closer to mine than trump's was demeeted to captain in the navy because of his drug and alcohol use. he was a failed trump nominee for the secretary of veterans affairs. he attended the stop the steal rally on january 6th. again, january 6th is defined by the current fbi director as, quote, domestic terrorism. they are now on the intel committee. >> this is the congressional version of the fox garden the henhouse. i can't overstate how potentially devastating this. i've and before the committees, in multiple times. every time what i experienced is there weren't republicans and democrats on the committee. there were simply americans. i obvious lie to say that classified intelligence is the great equalizer, that regardless of party affiliation, onc

elizabeth: joining us now from house foreign affairs, congressman scott perry.t's good to see you again, congressman. okay, these new reports that are coming in, they seem to be some conflicting information that's coming out of the white house. now president biden says he will not let ukraine join nato in a peace deal with russia. this is coming ahead of nato's an rule summit july 9th. but secretary of state blinken has said, yes, ukraine will join nato. so is this the just, you know, the fog of trying to figure out how to do a peace deal with russia, or is there real confusion here? >> well, it could be the fog in president biden's brain. i'm not sure. he might not know what, what annie blinken is saying. he -- antony blinken is saying. so i think it's just the continued confusion and mixed messages from the administration that just hopes the problem will go away and thinks that the answer a is to continually throw more money and more american weapons at a it. and so it's aa parent if though that they're not on the same page, that they haven't talked, spoken to

speaker johnson appointed the pennsylvania congressman scott perry and ronny jackson to -- two loyal as lies to the house intelligence committee. representative perry has been implicated in the events leading up to january 6. when asked why he chose scott perry, considering his ties to donald trump's efforts to overturn the election, i was gob smacked by this. speaker johnson told nbc news, i'm quoting, i think that is all behind us. those are his words, i kept -- it is not behind us in any way. >> when they say behind us, they mean it is in front of us. you know, it is a characteristic of fascist political parties, that they don't accept outcome of democratic elections that don't go their way and already donald trump is beginning to repeat the nonsense about how the only way he can lose is if the election is stolen from him. so they are trying to set people up, precisely for january 6th type actions in different parts of the country, and assaults on the electoral process and electoral system. and the leaders around donald trump, they echo him in saying the 2020 election was stolen d

like fellow trump advisor peter navarro and several members of congress including jim jordan and scott perry, he flatly refused to comply. did not invoke the fifth amendment, just said no, take a hike. navarro was also convicted of contempt and is currently in federal prison in miami after appealing his case all the way to the supreme court, which failed to bail him out. bannon played out a lengthy appeals process he ultimately lost. we should note this is hardly bannon's first brush with the law. you might remember in 2020 steve bannon was arrested on the aunt of a chinese billionaire and in fact if you were not bailed out by a last- minute pardon by donald trump on the last day of trump's presidency, bannon may have already been imprisoned following the federal indictment from trump's own department of justice. an indictment which says he grifted millions of dollars from hundreds of thousands of trump's supporters through phony claims that he would privately fund construction of a border wall. they did not really do it. two of his codefendants pleaded guilty to the charges. a third was con

a little bit of what scott perry had to say. >> we want to make sure that the -- that the intelligencein the bounds of the constitution and honoring the civil liberties and the rights of american citizens. you don't go on that committee to just rubber stamp what the intelligence community wants. >> reporter: and perry, for example, most recently opposed the foreign surveillance program, the reauthorization of that, so it just goes to show you how this committee is about to operate very differently than it has, especially if we see former president trump retake the white house again. chris? >> julie tsirkin, thank you. >>> a convicted january 6th rioter who was first arrested thanks to one woman's sting operation on the dating app bumble has now been sentenced to more than six years in prison for assaulting police officers at the capital with bear spray and a metal whip. ryan reilly is following this for us. tell us about this case, also what you've heard from the woman at the center of this i guess unofficial, right, dating app sting. >> reporter: that's right. so this all sort of star

scott perry and ronnie jackson being appointed to the committee peri played a major role in trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election jackson has a series of ethical issues in his past, including a demotion from the pentagon over his conduct while serving as white house position does that concern you neither concerns honestly. >> scott perry, not only who served honorably in congress, but as also been a general in the united states army reserves. and so i think he brings an interesting and strong some background to the intel committee, ronny jackson also has served in the military and has that kind of background that would benefit the house intelligence committee. so i understand that they are not perfect. i understand that they have engaged in things with president trump that some of their rhetoric may look dangerous, but i think both of them have served the country admirably and would add value to the intelligence committee from a congressman, ken buck. thank you for coming in thank you so how about but i'd like to solve the puzzle. >> friends is the end of an era. pat say jack host a

scott perry has come out and took aim at you as you know because he said if he gets on this committeeight, not blind obedience to some facets of our intelligence community, and he claimed they're spying on the american people. how do you respond to that? >> he has apologized, and certainly those are the type of words that you would not want from somebody who's joining a committee that is obviously very dedicated to national security and very dedicated to working on a bipartisan way. i think that upon him joining the committee and looking at the work that both he gets to do, and the work that we're doing that he'll be absolutely satisfied that he can play a role to -- in the work that we're doing for national security. >> so i understand you said you received assurances about their ability to handle classified information that they'll have access to, but as you know, dr. ronny jackson was demoted by the navy because a pentagon inspector general report found he had been taking sedatives while providing medical care to two u.s. presidents. that kind of compromising behavior would be disq

we did have a word of testimony from scott perry. he didn't have a word of testimony from jim jordan we didn't have a word of ttimony from andy biggs. we do not have a word of testimony from kevin mccarthy we did not have a word of testimony from brooks. nor do we receive a single document from scott perry. nor didnt we receive a single document from jim jordan. from and eat big storm to receive a document from kevin mccarthy. nor did he receive a single docume are talking about one 100% noncompliance obstruction when told the attorney general united states of america and contempt for 99.99% compliance with but they are saying now. one 100% compliance in reality for what it was the committee asked for. >> again i regret german jordan did not see fit to come and testify today. i would have liked to have heard question. i like to point out for the record hunter biden was found guilty by a jury of his peers in a case of prosecuted by a u.s. attorney appointed by president trump. presided over by federal judge appointed by presidenter tr

so we did not have a word of testimony from scott perry, we did not have a word of testimony from jim jordan. we did not have a word of testimony from andy biggs. we did not have a word of testimony from kevin mccarthy and we did not have a word of testimony from mo brooks, nor did we receive a single document from scott perry, nor did we receive a single document from jim jordan, nor did we receive a single document from andy biggs, nor did we receive a single document from kevin mccarthy. nor did we receive a single document from brooks. there you are talking about 100% noncompliance and obstruction, they want to on the attorney general of the united states of america in contempt for 99.99% compliance with what they are saying now and 100% compliance in reality for what it was at the committee asked for. >> again, chairman jordan did not see fit to come and testify today, i would have liked to have heard his answer to the same question but i just want to point out for the record, that hunter biden was found guilty by jury of his peers in a case prosecuted by a u.s. attorney appointe

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on this panel, people, one of whom really led the effort to try and overturn the 2020 election, scott perry, former pennsylvania, is raising a lot of alarms on capitol hill. he did not tell the intelligence committee chairman he was doing this and the reporting is as he did it at the urging of donald trump. so now what we are hearing is that the heads of the leaders of the intelligence committee are now worried that the intelligence community will stop sharing intelligence with congress, which they are constitutionally obligated to do because of the concerns of who is now on this panel. >> now, what do you think of this? somebody who helped, who, in overturning the 2020 election results, now on the intelligence committee? >> i mean, the fact that we have election deniers still serving in public office is still part of this problem that biden has been talking about, that we have been talking about, of the challenges that are very acute right now, facing our democracy. the intelligence community needs to be able to collaborate with congress as a representative people to be able to make decisi

putting someone like scott perry on the committee, as his cell phone records were subpoenaed by the justice department, someone involved in trying to install jeffrey clark, this unqualified person at the justice department and environmental section to install him as trump's attorney general because he thought he would be more useful in overturning the results of the election. someone like that on the committee who is involved already and an ongoing investigation, what it will mean is the intelligence agencies are not going to share the kind of information with the committee as a whole because they cannot trust him. it undermines the oversight role of the committee if agencies are not comfortable sharing with you, sadly though, he will have access to a lot of highly classified written material. there's not much that can be done about that. i am not surprised that even some republican members are unhappy with these choices. i have to think the chair and ranking member the intelligence committee, they are both unhappy about this. it shows the weakness of speaker johnson and the continued domin

>> today house speaker mike johnson installed that man you just saw along with election denier scott perry on the all- important house intelligence committee. congressional republicans seem to be acting on jackson's advice. they sent a criminal referral for president biden's brother james and last living son, hunter, both of whom have been targets of republican conspiracy theories for the better part of a decade. hunter biden facing trial in federal court and in the senate a number of republicans, many of whom hold hopes of being trump's vice presidential candidate, are also involved. here is jd vance. >> that is the only language that i think these people are going to understand, that if they do this, if they turn the american system of justice into banana republic garbage they will suffer consequences. >> and marco rubio, top republican on the senate intelligence committee, blasted president biden in apocalyptic terms, saying our current president is a demented man propped up by wicked and deranged people willing to destroy our country to remain in power. it is time to fight fire emoji w

speaker johnson just appointed election denying congressman scott perry and abuser ronny jackson to thatu, those are problematic characters to have access to our nation's top secrets and congressman perry was the poster boy for trump's efforts to prevent efforts from certifying president joe biden's election victory. even confiscating his phone to investigate his role in the plot. three years later thanks to speaker johnson, perry will oversee the fbi, and thomas min jackson, the former white house physician and member of the u.s. navy, who was stripped of his military rank were allegedly making sexual and it denigrating comments about a female colleague and abusing prescription medication. congressman jackson has called the acquisitions lyrically motivated, which sounds an awful lot like something donald trump would say. that brings us to why speaker johnson's appointments are so egregious. according to punchbowl news, the republican chair of the intel committee, congressman mike turner did not know about the appointments because the speaker of the house went around his own chairman at

people he's going to add to the intelligence committee you were kicked off of, sir, he will add scott perryse of his january 6th participation and ronny jackson the man who a lot of people think god did not have to touch the former president barack obama when he was the white house surgeon. >> they'rea lot of people thank god did not have to touch former president barack obama when he was in the white house. >> they are not serious. they are donald trump's law firm and they are part of a cold. that is your right in america. you can be in a cold, but your constituents would argue that is not your responsibility. we have to show seriousness. a country that prefers voting over violence and verdicts over vengeance and that is going to win at the end of the day. i don't buy that any american thinks this is what we should be focused on. >> the other piece of it, paul, is the real fears that a lot of people have for this jury in new york because they did not do what maga told them to do and you do have people trying to docs them, trying to find out who they are. they could get hurt because we have

on this panel, people, one of whom really led the effort to try to overturn the 2020 election, scott perry from pennsylvania, is raising a lot of alarms on capitol hill. he did not tell the intelligence committee chairman he was doing this and the reporting is that he did it at the urging of donald trump. so now we are hearing that the leaders of the intelligence committee are worried that the intelligence committee -- community will stop sharing intelligence with congress, which they are obligated to do, because of the concerns of who was on this panel. >> what you think of this? somebody who helped overturn the 2020 election results, now on the intelligence committee. >> the fact that we have election deniers still serving in public office is part of this problem that biden has been talking about and we have been talking about of the challenges that are very acute right now facing democracy. the intelligence community needs to be able to collaborate with congress to make decisions, to make sure the american public is kept safe and informed of the truth. that is the truth of russian movem

speaker johnson appointed election denying congressman scott perry and alleged abuser ryan jackson tor nations top secrets prepare he was a bit of a poster boy for trump's efforts to prevent the 2020 election victory of biden. the fbi actually confiscated his phone for his role in that plot. the nurse congressman jackson, the former white house physician and member of the u.s. navy who was stripped of his military rank for allegedly making sexual and denigrating comments about a female colleague and abusing prescription medication. he has called the accusations politically motivated which sounds an awful lot like something donald trump would say and that brings us why to the appointments are so egregious. republican chair of the intel committee, turner didn't even know about these appointments because the speaker of the house went around his own chairman at the behest of trump according to that report and the speaker is playing politics with this committee at a time when our intelligence committee is dealing with threats from a range of places, russia, china and engaged in high-stakes

and things that people like scott perry and ronnie jackson actually expressed support for.ate sexual conduct and inappropriate drug use and inappropriate alcohol use and these kind of things. to get to your point the reason those are some of the criteria for a security clearance is because vulnerability on those factors does create a vulnerability to national security. and i mean, you know, they have their own personal concerns right now about potential liability and criminal and otherwise, they also are direct conduits to mr. trump. so you can imagine as the intelligence community is -- committee is trying to do its job and wants to hear from members of the intelligence community about threats across the spectrum whether it's malign foreign actors, potentially who are trying to interfere with our election. whether it's threats domestically for, you know, violence. political violence or others. you can imagine a potential reluctance to even share that information with the committee when two people on the committee are so compromised. and so i think -- we have to be concerne

scott perry who was key in donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election and had his phone confiscated by the fbi in a federal probe is also -- has also just been appointed to the house intelligence committee, he'll oversee the fbi that was investigating him. so we've really taken a turn, even here on capitol hill, and i want to mention one other thing before i get to rubio very quickly. marjorie taylor greene who's easy to dismiss because of her outlandish rhetoric told me in a conversation outside the speaker's office that she would withhold various funds from various prosecutors and suggested that chuck schumer should intervene if he wants those funds in the new york case that convicted donald trump, and get the judge to overturn it. i mean, these things, katy, would be, again, easy to dismiss, because they're from fringe elements of the party, but unlike ten years ago, five years ago, seven years ago, the fringe elements of the party are driving the agenda. so i think that you could foresee if trump is in the white house, and republicans are in the house majority, that we're just g

two staunch trump allies, scott perry and ronny jackson were named to it, reportedly, at least according chairman. this is a committee that really has worked hard and prided itself on not being partisan. what do you think these two additions mean? >> it was tough to absorb because chairman turner, who i compliment profusely in terms of his dedication to creating a bipartisan, not angry environment to do the incredibly important work of overseeing this, you know, $90 billion operation, which is the cia and nsa, and all of our intelligence work, you know, if the accounts are true, and the speaker didn't bother to let the chairman know, that's tough. there's been a long tradition in the committee, if you go back decades, you'll see the party's leaders, every leader has appointed people whose reputation inside the house was as profoundly serious minded and maybe even a little bit nonpartisan. that is not what happened here. look, my job is to keep this committee sane. working with the chairman. i'm not going to prejudge what happened. i'll tell you, congressman perry's statement on real over

and speaker mike johnson, appointed to staunch trump allies congressman scott perry and congress when ronnie jackson to serve in the house intelligence committee, which has oversight over the fbi johnson jackson, and other republicans have made it no secret that they will continue to follow trump's orders on this we have to fight back and we will, with everything in our arsenal, president biden should gypsy be ready, because on january 20th, next year, what his former president, joe biden, at what's good for the goose is good for the gander. are you calling for retaliation for a strong response at every level oh oman or you just saw there is out front on capitol hill and minor. we saw you there with us senator rubio. i know you've been talking to a lot of republicans today. marco rubio among them. >> and it seems that revenge is they feel the right word perfectly justified yeah, look, there is a debate within the gop about exactly how far to go, particularly in this election season, many calling for simply to focus on other issues, economic issues that they believe the winning argumen

should be and possibly are but we have no indication, being investigated, probably starting with scott perryys, johnson was going to be part of this. so i don't know what the plans are. i don't expect they'll get a lock and they've been focusing on trump and his cohorts. to date, they are really -- just think of all the calls mark meadows got on the 6th itself. it's a big part of history, of the whole crimes. they have not to date been held accountable. this shows the wheels of justice grind slowly. if you read the indictment, they're talking about, we'll put this in if the court says so but then it goes away. that's what makes it a clear forgery. i agree. there is a whole legislative aspect here that we have not even touched the surface of. >> charlie, we use your voice on the national corruption of the republican party. but you were of and from wisconsin. just take us through the story in your state, in wisconsin. what happened? >> the election was decided by around 20,000 votes which seems to be the margin of all elections in wisconsin and even former republican governor scott walker said

on behalf of our colleagues, they were probably say that jim jordan and scott perry, so one, they had whatever legal argument they wanted to raise against being subpoenaed. okay, so does the attorney general of the united states. they would have opposed contempt motion against jim jordan or kevin mccarthy, but why would they support a contempt motion when there is a reasonable difference of view about whether an audiotape and a transcript serves the same function? especially when this attorney general and his administration have gone way beyond whatever any of our gop colleagues did in terms of complying with the subpoena and whatever donald trump ever did in terms of complying with a subpoena. we are all partisans, we don't have to play make-believe, but we should try to adhere to some basic principles as opposed to just turn on and turn off our principles according to whether it is going to affect the democrats or the republicans. >> thank you. i yield back. >> the gentle lady from minnesota is recognized. >> i am interested in the rule of law and i have -- chairman comer, was the s

and yet, speaker john, last week he announce his intent to name scott perry and ronny jackson it to thee committee. is that going to happen? >> well, unfortunately, pursuant to the rules of the house of representatives, the speaker with respect to the intel committee, as joe knows, has the unilateral authority to make appointments. those appointments are frightening in the context of the irresponsible nature of the behavior of those two individuals, particularly representative perry. if the american people give us the opportunity to govern with the gavels in november, we can assure you a different decision would be made. >> all right. house minority leader congressman hakeem jeffries of new york, thank you so much for coming on this morning. >> thank you. >>> and still ahead on "morning joe," we will take a look at the dangerous heatwave. temperatures in some areas soaring to 25 degrees above average at this time of year. >> and there is going to be another record-setting year most likely as far as heat goes, and you look at what's happened over the past 20 years. at what point will the

mike johnson recently announced his picks for two open spots on the intel committee, congressman scott perry jackson the former white house physician under president barack obama and donald trump. in 2022 he was demoted from the position of retired rear admiral to retired captain by the navy after a defense department inspector general found issues of inappropriate conduct when he was the top white house physician. congressman perry, head of the house freedom caucus, played a role in over turning the 2020 election, according to witnesses who testified before the january 6 panel. the fbi seized perry's phone in 2022 as part of the justice department's investigation into the effort to reverse the election results. so as you know, mr. chairman, it's not just democrats, it's not a partisan issue there. republicans quietly and some a little bit louder express concern about these two men having access to all the intelligence that you get on your committee. do you have concerns? >> both of the individuals have military background and experience, and neither of them have ever had any reported incide