larry: scott perry, thank you, claudia tenney, thank you very much.uch. moving along, another story, with the democratic convention in chicago backfire on kamala harris? nobody offered that point of view. joining us mark simone, wor hall of fame radio show host, joe concha, fox news contributor. new book, progressively worse, why today's democrats ain't your daddy's donkeys. mark simone, chicago backfire? >> absolutely. first there will be no crime in chicago for a week. they will clean up the streets. larry: [laughter] >> which will drive chicago crazy. a lot of radical speakers, central park five, salaam will speak right before harris. they will try another charlottesville, trump took out calling for death penalty, came it was for the central park five who were acquitted. the ad had nothing to do with it. this is like charlottesville, it is a total fraud. larry: left-wing speakers,. >> radical left-wing speakers. larry: they will yell, scream, they're being included. no matter how many flip-flops left-wing speakers. >> call trump racist. play those

joining me now is pennsylvania congressman scott perry.mber of the freedom caucus and retired army national guard brigadier general. always a pleasure to see you. gives us your reaction to the prisoner swap. >> great to be w with you, mar. we're elate ted to have these prisoners back home. they never should have been prisoners in the first place. there's another side to the equation, we've traded journalists for murderers and thieves. it's like trading a rifle for a spoon. these people should have never been taken hostage and prisoner in the first place. this emboldens vladimir putin to continue to broker these kind of deals and to take our people prisoner to get these kind of deals. and i just see biden's response, the standard, stop, well, that works real well against despots and thugs around the world. it's just -- it patently absurd. this is a terrible deal and it projects more biden weakness as the world wonders who is actually in charge in washington, d.c. for the next six months. maria: do you read into the timing of this in any way

frank in pennsylvania, mechanicsburg, pennsylvania, in the home of district 10, scott perry, ok? lifelong republican. and i've finally come to believe that i will vote against scott perry, i will vote against donald trump. when i looked at -- i found out i was really a patriot, not a republican. my father, veteran, three bronze stars in the battle of manila. my brother, a navy commander. all of us are republicans. we would never vote for donald trump, nor would you vote for anyone that-- we vote for anyone coming out of the maga republicans. host: so, caller, sorry to interrupt, what is the question for our guest? caller: the question is what can donald trump do for our country and our patriotism, period? host: ok, frank in pennsylvania. guest: yeah, i think most recently we have seen evidence that really questions the approach that former president trump has taken in terms of defining patriotism. it was in all the headlines this last week when he basically said that receiving the presidential medal of freedom was a much higher honor than the presidential medal of honor. he has b

with a former department of justice official who worked in the civil division who was plucked by scott perry and brought to the former president's attention because he was willing to draft a letter saying to state legislatures, you don't have to accept this lying down. you can replace your state's slate of electors by convening a special legislative session. and jeff clark drafted a letter that was supposed to go out on department of justice letterhead. he was stopped from doing so by jeffrey rosen and his then deputy donahue. it culminated in what i call the oval office showdown on january 3rd where a number of department of justice officials are sitting in the oval office with former president trump saying to them, tell me why i shouldn't make jeffrey bossert clark the attorney general and allow him to send this to states that could swing the election to me? certain of his deputies, eric hirschman and pat saying to us, if you do that, you will have our resignation. this is not how the department of justice is supposed to be used. you recall i said a few moments ago that one concrete exampl