. >> rose: here's what scott ruden said. >> did you meet scott ruden? yes.are important, charlie. (laughter) >> i have worked with him for 15 years and still haven't met him. >> rose: what's his role in the film? >> he's a producer. >> rose: exactly. he produced the first one, also. i think he's, like, one of the best producers ever. >> rose: how do you measure that? >> by the movies and plays that he's produced and his process. he started out as a casting director, he loves actors, he loves the process and he really is just very, very smart. >> rose: i agree about that. he loves the fact we're talking about him, too. here's what he h said, and this is what i was looking for when i was interviewing you. he said i've never seen anybody with such tenacity, wit and first-rate business sense. that's what scott said about ben. i asked you what you learned about ben and you said he goes jogging. (laughter) >> i can actually tie those two together. i did one incredibly hard day on trommic thunder in hawaii. >> rose: oh, yeah, go ahead. it was a 16-hour day where we

scott smith... that has coach john oostendorp pumped up ... coe led 9-0 after two matches... but cornell comes answers with back-to-back pins... at 141, josh martin pins brady ruden in the final seconds of the 2nd period... 149, 8th ranked trevor engle gets a third period pin to give the rams a 12-9 lead ... but the kohawks respond... 165, defending national champion farai sewera gets he tech fall... kohawks edge cornell, 23- 22... coe hasn't lost to cornell since 1999 thanks josh. one last look atathe forecast, joe... quiet weather remains in place tonight with a partly cloudy sky and lows in the teens. friday brings a light snow chance, under 1", but n n until late. the morning feaeares an increase of clouds as highs push near 30. for the

scott smith... that has coach john oostendorp pumped up ... coe led 9-0 after two matches... but cornell comes answers with back-to-back pins... at 141, josh martin pins brady ruden in the final seconds of the 2nd period... 149, 8th ranked trevor engle gets a third period pin to give the rams a 12-9 lead ... but the kohawks respond... 165, defending national champion farai sewera gets the tech fall... kohawks edge cornell, 23- 22... coe hasn't lost to cornell since 1999 good friday morning. you're looking live