and then scott rudin, he's like, "okay, i'll call you." scott rudin called somebody, probably sherry lansing. she called somebody else. and the next day, the movie was an "r," and not a frame of it changed. so paramount pictures basically finally telling the m.p.a.a., "you really need to make this an 'r.'" and they're like, "okay, it's an 'r'." that's disgusting. there was a time in this country where government was leaning on creators, and all the pressure comes from-- i'd be less scared of government. they'd be accountable, 'cause we could vote 'em out. m.p.a.a. is just there. it's like star chamber. great conversation; thank you so much for joining us today. thank you. i appreciate it. captioning provided by the first amendment center, funded by the freedom forum. captioning by captionmax www.captionmax.com (female announcer) for more information about speaking freely, visit our website at: >> the san francisco cons tri of flowers in golden gate park is now showing a new exhibit that changes the way we see the plants around us. amy stew